What is the relationship between the energy expended, the useful work done, and the efficiency?isukatphysics69 said:19800*.35 = 6930J
energy expended divided by work is efficiency?haruspex said:What is the relationship between the energy expended, the useful work done, and the efficiency?
Would that tend to produce a value > 1 or < 1?isukatphysics69 said:energy expended divided by work is efficiency?
it depends thoharuspex said:Would that tend to produce a value > 1 or < 1?
Will the work expended be more or less than the useful work done?isukatphysics69 said:it depends tho
So what would be a sensible way to define efficiency?isukatphysics69 said:ok so since there is wasted energy then the work expended is more than the useful work done
so 35/100 particles of rocketfuel are usefullharuspex said:So what would be a sensible way to define efficiency?
so total energy expended was 19800 jules. only 35 percent of that is used efficiently so out of the total 19800 6930 was put to use that's what i thoughtharuspex said:Right, so what should you do with the 19800J you calculated?
No. How did you calculate the 19800 J? Go back and check.isukatphysics69 said:so total energy expended was 19800 jules
oh yea ok so the change in chemical potential energy was 19800 joulesharuspex said:No. How did you calculate the 19800 J? Go back and check.
There are the following quantities of work...isukatphysics69 said:oh yea ok so the change in chemical potential energy was 19800 joules
They all have to do with energyharuspex said:There are the following quantities of work...
Useful work done
Total work done
19800J
GPE gained
KE gained
Chemical PE lost
Work lost to heat, sound etc.
What are all the relationships between these?
No, I mean what equations relate them. Some are equal, some add up to equal others...isukatphysics69 said:They all have to do with energy
haruspex said:There are the following quantities of work...What are all the relationships between these?
Yes.isukatphysics69 said:Total work done = GPE gained + Work lost to heat, sound etc. + KE gained
No. Look at how you calculated 19800J in post #1. I see nothing about chemical PE there.isukatphysics69 said:Chemical PE lost = 19800J Since it is the change in PE
You left out GPE gained.isukatphysics69 said:Useful work done = KE gained
ok there is a mistake there both sides should be multiplied by negative 1 so CPE final - CPE initial will be ΔCPEharuspex said:Yes.
No. Look at how you calculated 19800J in post #1. I see nothing about chemical PE there.
You left out GPE gained.
No.isukatphysics69 said:ok there is a mistake there both sides should be multiplied by negative 1 so CPE final - CPE initial will be ΔCPE