Changing Order of Integration: A Refresher for Finals

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The discussion revolves around changing the order of integration for a double integral involving a circular region in the second quadrant. The original integral is defined over specific bounds that describe a quarter of a circle.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the geometric interpretation of the integral limits and question how to derive equivalent inequalities for changing the order of integration. There is a discussion on whether both proposed integrals are valid representations of the same region.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem algebraically by manipulating inequalities. There is an acknowledgment of the graphical method used by the original poster, and while there is some confusion, a sense of clarity is emerging regarding the correctness of the original answer.

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Participants are working under the constraints of preparing for finals, which may influence their understanding and confidence in the material. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the terminology used, such as "inequations" versus "inequalities."

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Ok, need refresher b4 finals!

Change order of integration

[tex]\int_{-2}^0\int_0^{\sqrt{4-x^2}}f(x,y)dydx[/tex]

to

[tex]\int_0^2\int_{-\sqrt{4-y^2}}^0f(x,y)dxdy[/tex] going from right to left, and the fact that my original integral is the part of the circle in quadrant 2, it should be [tex]x=-\sqrt{4-y^2}[/tex]

or

[tex]\int_0^2\int_0^{\sqrt{4-y^2}}f(x,y)dxdy[/tex] this is my original answer, but now I'm thinking it's the 1st one :-\
 
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Your geometric argument looks correct. You can argue in a purely algebraic fashion too -- you need to argue in two steps:

(1) Starting with the inequations [itex]-2 \leq x \leq 0[/itex] and [itex]0 \leq y \leq \sqrt{4 - x^2}[/itex], derive the inequations [itex]0 \leq y \leq 2[/itex] and [itex]-\sqrt{4 - y^2} \leq x \leq 0[/itex].

(2) Starting with the inequations [itex]0 \leq y \leq 2[/itex] and [itex]-\sqrt{4 - y^2} \leq x \leq 0[/itex], derive the inequations [itex]-2 \leq x \leq 0[/itex] and [itex]0 \leq y \leq \sqrt{4 - x^2}[/itex]

If you can do that, then you will have (algebraically!) shown that those two pairs of inequations describe the same shape.
 
Hurkyl, my brain is fried ... lol. What do you mean by inequations?

My original integral

[tex]0\leq y\leq\sqrt{4-x^2}[/tex] is the positive semi circle

[tex]-2\leq x\leq 0[/tex] so i now have just a quarter of a circle in quadrant 2
 
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He means the inequalities. If you can show by means of inequality maniupulations that you can start with one form and arrive at the other, as well as vice versa, then you would have have shown that the region under consideration is the same, ie. you have sucessfully obtained the correct limits for the change of order in integration. Your method is purely graphical, which is also fine.
 
So both answers are correct? :O :O :O
 
Your original answer is correct.
 

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