Charge distribution in a conductor (using maxwell's equations)

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of charge distribution in a conductor characterized by its conductivity and permittivity, specifically exploring the time-dependent decay of charge density as described by Maxwell's equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need for substitutions in Maxwell's equations to derive the exponential decay of charge density. There are attempts to express current density in terms of electric displacement and questions about the relationship between free current density and total current density.

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Some participants have offered guidance on expressing variables in terms of one another, while others are exploring the implications of their substitutions. There is an ongoing exploration of whether certain assumptions hold true within the context of the problem.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the definitions of current density and charge density within a conductor, and the implications of assuming constant properties like conductivity and permittivity.

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Homework Statement


Show that any charge distribution in a conductor of conductivity σ and relative
permittivity κ vanishes in time as ρ = ρ0exp(−t/ζ) where ζ = κǫ0
σ


Homework Equations


Maxwell's equation
∇ · D = ρfree

equation of continuity for a free charge density
∇ · Jfree = −∂(ρfree)/∂t


ohms law
J = σE



The Attempt at a Solution



I can see that ρ will get smaller and smaller as time 't' increases according to
ρ = ρ0exp(−t/ζ) and clearly some sort of substitution is required of the equations but I can't see how substitution will result in a exponential appearing. Basically I don't know where to start so any help would be appreciated or a push in the right direction.

Thanks
 
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Try expressing J in terms of D then combine your two maxwell's equation into a single DE for [itex]\rho[/itex]
 
I could sub the first eq into the second to get the divergence of current density equals the negative differential of the divergence of the electric displacement field, or

∇ · Jfree = −∂(∇ · D)/∂t

Can Jfree and total J be considered to be the same thing in this example? Also I will lose ρ if i do this.
 
Is there ever any bound current in a conductor? If not, then Jfree and J are the same right?

And you don't want to combine the equations in that manner...start with expressing D in terms of E... there should be an equation for that
 
Okay so Jfree=J. also D=εE so E=D/ε
and therefore J=σD/ε

edit:
so

∇ · σD/ε = −∂(ρfree)/∂t
or
(∇σ/ε)· D + (σ/ε)(ρfree) = −∂(ρfree)/∂t

Doesn't feel like I am getting anyhere
 
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Not sure if your allowed to bump threads on this forum...o:)
 
sweep123 said:
∇ · σD/ε = −∂(ρfree)/∂t
or
(∇σ/ε)· D + (σ/ε)(ρfree) = −∂(ρfree)/∂t

Doesn't feel like I am getting anyhere

σ/ε is a constant, so (∇σ/ε)=0 and therefor (σ/ε)(ρfree) = −∂(ρfree)/∂t

Also, is ρfree a function of any other variables besides time, inside a conductor?...if not, then−∂(ρfree)/∂t=−d(ρfree)/dt and you have a seperable ordinary differential equation for ρfree.
 
aha. I get it, Thanks a lot that's brilliant. Don't think I would have ever got that on my own:smile:
 

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