Charge of down, up , electron; (-1/3, 2/3, -1)*3 more natural?

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Let us define the charge of the down-quark, up-quark, and electron as

(-1/3, 2/3, -1)*3 or -1, 2, -3.

Let momentum in some closed one dimensional space be equated with electric charge. If momentum goes as n/wavelength where n = 1,2,3,..., the down quark has a charge of -1, wavelength equal the the "length", L, of the closed space. The up quark has two units of charge, twice as much momentum as the down quark, wavelength equal to L/2. The electron has three units of charge, wavelength equal to L/3.

Electron charge defined as -3 more natural?

Thank you for any thoughts.
 
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Spinnor said:
Let us define the charge of the down-quark, up-quark, and electron as

(-1/3, 2/3, -1)*3 or -1, 2, -3.

Let momentum in some closed one dimensional space be equated with electric charge. If momentum goes as n/wavelength where n = 1,2,3,..., the down quark has a charge of -1, wavelength equal the the "length", L, of the closed space. The up quark has two units of charge, twice as much momentum as the down quark, wavelength equal to L/2. The electron has three units of charge, wavelength equal to L/3.

Electron charge defined as -3 more natural?

Thank you for any thoughts.
If we could start from scratch your idea would probably prevail, but it is far too late to change.

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An electron charge of 1 is easily the most convenient for the most people. There are a lot more people dealing with protons and electrons, atoms and molecules than there are dealing with quarks directly. All of chemistry, to begin with...
 
Spinnor said:
Let us define the charge of the down-quark, up-quark, and electron as

(-1/3, 2/3, -1)*3 or -1, 2, -3.

Let momentum in some closed one dimensional space be equated with electric charge. If momentum goes as n/wavelength where n = 1,2,3,..., the down quark has a charge of -1, wavelength equal the the "length", L, of the closed space. .


What makes you believe that charge has anything to do with momentum?

In addition, in QM, momentum has a commutator where as charge does not.
 
Spinnor said:
enotstrebor said:
What makes you believe that charge has anything to do with momentum?


Something I thought a friend told me who was interested in 5-D relativity.

See:

http://arxiv.org/find/all/1/all:+AND+carey+briggs/0/1/0/all/0/1

This is not a valid way of citing a reference. Please cite the EXACT paper. And since this is still QM and not particle physics/string, we strongly prefer peer-reviewed publication and not just a preprint on ArXiv.

Zz.
 
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