Charging capacitors at different voltage levels

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of charging capacitors at different voltage levels using a transformer and a high-frequency switch. Participants explore the feasibility of transferring energy from one capacitor to another and the implications of transformer operation in this context. The conversation touches on theoretical aspects, practical applications, and potential limitations of the proposed method.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a method to charge a second capacitor to a higher voltage using a transformer connected to a first capacitor charged at a lower voltage.
  • Another participant mentions that while the method can charge the second capacitor to a higher voltage, it requires multiple attempts and does not result in a real power gain.
  • A participant identifies the described process as similar to a switched-capacitor boost converter, commonly used in electronics.
  • Concerns are raised about the assumptions regarding the capacitance values of the capacitors and the nature of the output waveform from the switch and transformer.
  • One participant suggests that the transformer acts like a "water pump," transferring energy from one capacitor to another, but questions the efficiency and ultimate voltage levels achievable.
  • Another participant warns against interpreting the method as a "free energy" solution, emphasizing that transformers operate with AC and that the discharge of a capacitor does not create a proportional increase in voltage on the secondary side.
  • Participants discuss the implications of connecting capacitors in parallel and the resulting voltage levels, considering energy conservation and efficiency losses during the transfer process.
  • Mathematical calculations are presented to illustrate energy stored in capacitors and the effects of connecting them in various configurations.
  • Questions arise regarding the final voltage levels when resistive loads are introduced between the capacitors, with participants debating whether the voltage will remain consistent regardless of the load resistance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness and efficiency of the proposed method for charging capacitors. There is no consensus on the ultimate voltage levels achievable or the implications of connecting resistive loads between the capacitors.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the ideal behavior of transformers and capacitors, the efficiency of energy transfer, and the impact of load resistance on final voltage levels. These factors remain unresolved and are subject to further exploration.

  • #31
cala - 360W for 30s from a 33uF capacitor at 12V? This is beyond absurd. If this were true, once you figure out how to build it then call the defense department and tell them you have the solution to their electronically propelled kinetic energy projectiles.

You're math for the energy stored in that capacitor is off by a factor of about 4.5 million. If you don't believe it, build this, should only cost a few bucks if you wind the transformer yourself.

Cliff
 

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