Check that a set is closed, and that another is compact

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The discussion revolves around a problem in functional analysis concerning the properties of closed and compact sets within a normed vector space. The original poster presents two parts of a problem: demonstrating that the sum of a closed set and a compact set is closed, and that the sum of two compact sets is compact.

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  • The original poster attempts to show that a sequence from the sum of the sets converges to a point in that sum. They explore the implications of compactness and closedness on convergence and subsequences.

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Participants are engaging with the problem by discussing the convergence of subsequences and the implications of closed sets. Some guidance has been provided regarding the properties of closed sets and their relationship to limits, but no consensus or resolution has been reached.

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The problem is set within the framework of a normed vector space, and participants are navigating the complexities of convergence and the definitions of closed and compact sets. There is an acknowledgment of the challenge posed by the topic.

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I have a problem with this exercise. Ironically I think I can manage the part that is supposed to be hardest, here is the problem:

Let (V,||\cdot||), be a normed vector-space.

a), Show that if A is a closed subset of V, and C is a compact subset of V, then A+C=\{a+c| a \in A, c \in C\} is closed.

b) Show that if both A and C are compact then A+C is compact.

I think b was ok,so I tried that first: if we have a sequence from A+C: \{a_n+c_n\}, then \{a_n\}, has a subsequence converging to a, if we look the original sequence but only the indexes from the subsequence converging to a, then of these indexes of the sequence \{c_n\}, must have a subsequence converging to c, and since we then have convergence of a subsequence to a+c, we are done?I struggle more with a).

I thought that I could show that if ther is a sequence from A+C converging to a point, then this point must be in A+C. So I start with the sequence \{a_n+c_n\}, which I assume converges to b, I must show that b is in A+C.
I get that since C is compact there must be a subsequence so that \{c_{n_k}\}, converges to an element c in C. Then using the same indexes \{a_{n_k}\} must converge to b-c. But how do I proceed to show that b is in A+C?
 
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Will the sequence ##(a_{n_k} + c_{n_k})## converge?
 
micromass said:
Will the sequence ##(a_{n_k} + c_{n_k})## converge?

Yeah, that is a subsequence of the original sequence. And I started with the original sequence converging, and every subsequence of a converging sequence converges.
 
So you know that ##(a_{n_k})## converges to ##b-c##. What can you conclude from ##A## being closed?
 
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micromass said:
So you know that ##(a_{n_k})## converges to ##b-c##. What can you conclude from ##A## being closed?

Yeah I understand, b-c is in A, so (b-c)+c is in A+C.

Thanks!
 
bobby2k said:
Yeah I understand, b-c is in A, so (b-c)+c is in A+C.

Thanks!

That's it!
 
Thanks, vector-spaces are a little tricker than metric-spaces.
 

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