Engineering Circuit y(t)=|x(t)|, LIT system?

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The discussion centers on whether the circuit defined by y(t)=|x(t)| is a Linear Time Invariant (LTI) system. Participants clarify that the circuit is not LTI due to its non-linear operation, as it alters the negative parts of the input signal. The mathematical definitions of linearity and time invariance are emphasized, with examples provided to illustrate the failure of the system to meet LTI criteria. Ultimately, the consensus is that the circuit does not qualify as an LTI system. The conversation concludes with acknowledgment of the correct understanding of the circuit's properties.
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Homework Statement


Consider a circuit which output is the absolute value of the input signal, this is, y(t)=|x(t)|?

a) this circuit is not a LIT system because it implements a non linear operation;

b) this circuit is a LIT system that creates phase distortion;

c) this circuit is a LIT system that creates amplitude distortion;

d) this circuit is a LIT system that creates amplitude and phase distortion.

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The Attempt at a Solution


My first thought was... it's not linear because it will "convert" only the negative part of the sinusoid but then... isn't this because of the phase? I can't decide between a) and b).

Could someone please give a help?
 
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znaya said:
My first thought was... it's not linear because it will "convert" only the negative part of the sinusoid

To answer a mathematical question, you should think in terms of mathematics. What's the mathematical definition of a linear time independent system (- if that's what "LIT" abbreviates. The more common abbreviation is "LTI".)
 
it means that the system will do the same no matter what time...
 
znaya said:
it means that the system will do the same no matter what time...

That isn't a mathematical description. Look up the mathematical definition of an LTI system. What mathematical laws must it follow?
 
I think you mean LTI: Linear Time invariant.
for a system to be LTI it has to meet to criteria.
1. it has to be linear
(S is a system operator)

S [ x1(t) + x2(t)] = S [x1(t)] + S [x2(t)]

and

S [ a x1(t) ] = a S [x1(t) ]

2. it has to be time invariant
y(t - T) = S [x(t - T)]
for any T or t

so znaya, does your function meet the first criteria?
use two inputs, say -2 and 2
 
Stephen Tashi said:
That isn't a mathematical description. Look up the mathematical definition of an LTI system. What mathematical laws must it follow?

http://www.icoachmath.com/math_dictionary/Linear_Function.html

Definition of Linear Function
A function that can be graphically represented in the Cartesian coordinate plane by a straight line is called a Linear Function.
 
donpacino said:
I think you mean LTI: Linear Time invariant.
for a system to be LTI it has to meet to criteria.
1. it has to be linear
(S is a system operator)

S [ x1(t) + x2(t)] = S [x1(t)] + S [x2(t)]

and

S [ a x1(t) ] = a S [x1(t) ]

2. it has to be time invariant
y(t - T) = S [x(t - T)]
for any T or t

so znaya, does your function meet the first criteria?
use two inputs, say -2 and 2

for x=-2, y=2
for x=2, y=2
for x=(2+(-2)) y=0

i see...

so it seems my first thought was right...
 
Stephen Tashi, donpacino, thank you so much for your help.
 
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