Circular Motion and Friction of brass block

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The discussion centers on calculating the maximum distance a brass block can be placed from the axis of a revolving turntable before sliding off, given a coefficient of friction of µ = 0.23 and a rotation speed of 33 1/3 rev/min. Participants clarify the relationship between friction, centripetal acceleration, and the necessary conversions for frequency from revolutions per minute to revolutions per second. The correct formula involves using the frictional force to equate with the centripetal force, leading to the calculation of distance R. A mistake in the initial calculation is identified, emphasizing the importance of using consistent units throughout the process. The final correct distance calculated is approximately 0.185 meters or 18.5 cm.
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The coefficient of friction between a certain brass block and a large revolving turntable is µ = 0.23. How far from the axis of rotation can the block be placed before it slides off the turntable if it is rotating at 33 1/3 rev/min?

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the only force on the block is the friction in the same direction as the centripetal acceleration, right?
so...

f = m * a(centripetal)
0.23 * N = m * v^2 / r = mRω^2, where ω = 2*pi*F(frequency), F = 1/(33 1/3) = 0.03 and N = mg.

so, simplifying,
0.23*m*g = 100/3*m*R*ω^2,
0.23*g = 100/3*R*w^2
0.0069*g = R(w^2)
R = 0.06762 / w^2, where w^2 = 0.03553
R = 1.9032 meters, which, apparently, is wrong. but why?

my work seems right, and the answer sounds right...
what have i done wrong?
 
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General tip - always do the algebra with letters only and substitue numerical values only at the end.
Your calculation should look like this:
miu * m* g = m * R * w^2
miu * g = R * w^2
R=(miu * g)/w^2 = (0.23 * 9.8)/(2 * pi * (33.33/60))^2=0.185m=18.5cm
 
how did you get 33.33/60?
where did 60 come from?
is that converting it to rev/hour? if so, why? it's not part of the question btw. I'm just wondering. =)
 
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nahya said:
f = m * a(centripetal)
0.23 * N = m * v^2 / r = mRω^2, where ω = 2*pi*F(frequency), F = 1/(33 1/3) = 0.03 and N = mg.
It looks like you are using F = 1/T, where T = period. No need for that, since you are given the frequency (you just have to convert it to standard units).

33 1/3 is the frequency in rev/min; you need the frequency in rev/sec. (That's where the (33.33)/60 comes from.)
 
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