Circular Motion/Gravity Problems

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The discussion revolves around problems related to circular motion and gravity, specifically focusing on a car navigating the top of a circular bridge and the conditions under which it may leave the road. Participants also explore the minimum speed required for a person to float away from the Earth's surface at the equator.

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  • Participants discuss the conditions under which the car remains on the bridge versus when it may leave the road, questioning the assumptions about the car's speed and the radius of the bridge.

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Some participants have offered guidance on using centripetal force equations and the relationship between gravitational and centripetal forces. Others are exploring the implications of different speeds and the effect on the car's trajectory.

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There is some confusion regarding the radius of the circular bridge as indicated in the problem statement versus the accompanying diagram. Additionally, participants are considering the implications of the car's speed on its ability to maintain contact with the bridge.

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Homework Statement


A car of mass 1000kg has just reached the top of a circular bridge of radius 6.0m (See the figure provided). Calculate where the car will reach the ground level if the car is traveling at
a) 5.0 m s-1
b) 7.67 m s-1
c) 20.0 m s-1
at the top of the curve
Image for first question:
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5581/1001rm5.jpg


At what minimum speed should the Earth spin to enable you to float away from the Earth's surface at the equator?

Homework Equations


[tex] \begin{array}{l}<br /> W = mg \\ <br /> a = \frac{{v^2 }}{r} = \frac{{4\pi ^2 r}}{{T^2 }} = \frac{{2\pi v}}{T} \\ <br /> g = \frac{F}{m} = \frac{{GM}}{{r^2 }} \\ <br /> F = ma \\ <br /> F = \frac{{GMm}}{{r^2 }} \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


I have no idea on where to start with these problems, so all help is greatly appreciated, many thanks in advance

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Ad the second question - use the equation FG = Fcentripetal. Then rearrange it to get the formula for angular speed.
 
mmm... sounds like a projectile motion problem...?? do we assume that the car stick to the ground or what?
 
mjsd, that is what ai am trying to find out, if the car will stick to the ground, past the peak of the bridge traveling at the different velocities
 
ok, so in order for it to stick it mustn't move too fast... so that it will remain in uniform circular motion following the arc. obviously mv^2/r comes in here. if v is too high it will fly off
 
so i have to find when the reaction force along the top of the bridge is zero?
 
yes, that will give you the cut-off point
 
okay thanks for that, ill try it and see how i go
 
although in the question you said the circular bridge is of radius 6m, the diagram seems to indicate the radius is 10m instead??
 
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for the velocity of 5 meters per second:
[tex] \begin{array}{l}<br /> a = \frac{{v^2 }}{r} = \frac{{5^2 }}{{10}} = 2.5\,m\,s^{ - 2} \\ <br /> F = ma = 2.5\left( {1000} \right) = 2500 \\ <br /> W = mg = 9.8\left( {1000} \right) = 9800 \\ <br /> W > F \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]

therefore the car will not leave the road

when the car is traveling at 7.67 meters per second:
[tex]\[<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> a = \frac{{v^2 }}{r} = \frac{{7.67^2 }}{{10}} = 5.88289\,m\,s^{ - 2} \\ <br /> F = ma = 5.88289\left( {1000} \right) = 5882.89 \\ <br /> W = mg = 9.8\left( {1000} \right) = 9800 \\ <br /> W > F \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]

therefore the car will not leave the road

for the car traveling at 20 meters per second:
[tex] \begin{array}{l}<br /> a = \frac{{v^2 }}{r} = \frac{{20^2 }}{{10}} = 40\,m\,s^{ - 2} \\ <br /> F = ma = 40\left( {1000} \right) = 40000 \\ <br /> W = mg = 9.8\left( {1000} \right) = 9800 \\ <br /> W < F \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]

therefore the car will leave the road.
where the car will land:
[tex] \begin{array}{l}<br /> s = ut + \frac{1}{2}at^2 \\ <br /> s_{vertical} = 6 \\ <br /> u_{vertical} = 0 \\ <br /> a_{vertical} = 9.8 \\ <br /> 6 = \frac{1}{2}\left( {9.8} \right)t^2 \\ <br /> t = \sqrt {\frac{{2\left( 6 \right)}}{{9.8}}} = 1.1065 \\ <br /> s_{horizontal} = ut = 20\left( {1.1065} \right) = 22.1313\,m \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]

therefore the car will land approximately 22 (horizontally) meters from the top of the bridge.

does that look correct? thanks.
 
  • #11
haven't check your numerical values, but method looks good (which is the more important bit)
 
  • #12
you legend! thanks
 

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