Circular Motion Question: Bird's Net Vertical Force and Upward Lift Calculation

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The discussion centers on calculating the net vertical force and upward lift on a bird diving in a vertical circular path. The bird has a mass of 0.5 kg, a speed of 25 m/s at the bottom of the arc, and a radius of 15 m. The correct net vertical force acting on the bird is calculated to be 25.7 N, while the upward lift exerted by the air is determined to be 20.8 N. There is some confusion regarding the calculations, particularly concerning the directions of the accelerations involved. Clarification is sought on the net vertical acceleration of the bird at the lowest point of the dive.
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Homework Statement



A bird of mass 0.5kg dives and then pulls out of the dive by flying in a portion of a vertical circle of radius 15m. At the bottom of the arc the birds speed is 25m/s.
a) What is the magnitude of the net vertical force acting on the bird?
b) What is the magnitude of the upward lift exerted on the bird by the air?

Homework Equations



Only give equations F=ma and a=\frac{v^2}{r}

The Attempt at a Solution



So for (a) I got:
a=\frac{v^2}{r}
=\frac{25^2}{15}
= 41.667m/s

F=(ma) + (mg)
= (0.5 x 41.667) + (0.5 x 9.8)
= 25.7N

Which I think also means that (b) is 20.8N (from F=ma)

However a friend got the answer to (a) as 20.8N (she couldn't figure out (b))
 
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I think net vertical force will create a net vertical acceleration. What is (net?) vertical acceleration of the bird at the lowest point?
 
Using mukundpa's hint, you should get the right answer for (a). But you calculation from there to part (b) is also wrong. think about the directions of the two accelerations, a and g.
 
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