Circular Polarization: Explaining \beta z in Electric Field

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The discussion revolves around the concept of circular polarization in electromagnetic waves, specifically focusing on the relationship between time and spatial components in the electric field expression. Participants explore the implications of the wave number and its relation to the propagation of the wave in the z-direction.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario with two dipole antennas oriented 90 degrees apart, leading to a circularly polarized electric field expressed as a combination of cosine and sine functions.
  • Another participant explains that the wave varies sinusoidally in both time and space, suggesting that the equations combine these two effects into a single sinusoidal function.
  • A participant seeks a clearer explanation of the relationship between the terms ωt and βz, expressing confusion about how they relate to the wave's propagation.
  • Another participant attempts to simplify the problem by discussing linear polarization and the movement of the wave in the z-direction, providing a step-by-step breakdown of how the wave equation evolves over time and space.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and seek clarification on specific aspects of the wave behavior. There is no consensus on a single explanation that satisfies all participants, indicating that multiple interpretations and levels of comprehension exist.

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Some participants may have differing assumptions about the nature of wave propagation and the mathematical relationships involved, which could affect their interpretations of the electric field equations.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying electromagnetic theory, wave propagation, or anyone seeking to understand the nuances of circular polarization and its mathematical representation.

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Consider two dipole antennas, oriented 90degrees apart [imagine the x-y plane, let "a" be the dipole oriented along the x-axis, and the "b" be the dipole oriented along the y-axis]. If "a" dipole radiates cos(\omega t) and "b" dipole radiates sin(\omega t), the field radiated by the two antennas will be circularly polarized:

\vec{E}(z, t) = E_{0}[cos(\omega t - \beta z)\hat{x} + sin(\omega t - \beta z)\hat{y}] (#1)

Relevant Question:
In terms of a specific distance, say in the \hat{x} direction, the cosine function has traveled a distance \omega t (as did the sine function in it's respective axis). But I don't understand why To find electric field at a given location in the \hat{z} direction, we subtract the distance traveled \omega t by the wave number times distance in z, or \beta z - for each component \hat{x}, \hat{y}. The wave number is the wavelength of the sinusoid per unit distance. What happens when we take this wave number \beta and multiply it by z? What does that represent, I cannot see the relation between the two (\omega t and \beta z)?

Does one unit length of z = 1 for \beta z \hat{x} and \beta z \hat{y} correspond to a length of \frac{2\pi}{\lambda} in the \hat{z} direction?
 
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The wave is both sinusoidal in time and in space. Thus, if we were too look at the wave at a constant point in space, we expect that it should vary sinusoidally with angular frequency \omega over time. If we were to look at the wave at a constant point in time over space, we would expect that the wave would vary spacially sinuisoidally with respect to the angular frequency \beta, which is called the wave number. All they have done in your set of equations is combine these two effects into a single sinusoidal function.
 
Born2bwire said:
The wave is both sinusoidal in time and in space. Thus, if we were too look at the wave at a constant point in space, we expect that it should vary sinusoidally with angular frequency \omega over time. If we were to look at the wave at a constant point in time over space, we would expect that the wave would vary spacially sinuisoidally with respect to the angular frequency \beta, which is called the wave number. All they have done in your set of equations is combine these two effects into a single sinusoidal function.

That kind of made sense, but wasn't the kind of answer I was looking for haha. If someone could explain this in a different way, that would be great.

thanks
 
Hello,

Let's try to simplify the problem...

Assume we have linear polarization in x-direction i.e. E = \cos(\omega t - \beta z) \hat{x} or we can write it as E = cos(\beta z - \omega t) \hat{x}.

This wave is a traveling wave.. means that it moves in the direction of \hat{z}.

Try to plot E with respect to the distance at time (t = 0). This will give cosine wave with zero phase .. E = cos(\beta z)

Try to increase the time to t_1 for example. you will find the wave is shifted to the right. so this can be represented by subtracting z by the value of the shift say z1... E = cos(\beta (z - z_1)) = cos (\beta z - \beta z_1).

Assume that the wave is moving with velocity v. Then the time t1 need to move distance z1 is z1/v.

Substitute z1 by v*t1, we get
E = cos(\beta z - \beta v t_1)

By letting \beta * v = \omega, we have
E = cos(\beta z - \omega t_1)

So as a conclusion if t = T which is the time period of cosine, we will find that the wave moves a distance equal to the wavelength \lambda

I hope that I answered your question.
Good luck
 

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