Civil Engineer, chemistry is recommended but not required

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the necessity of chemistry knowledge for prospective civil engineering students, particularly regarding the relevance of high school chemistry courses in preparation for university-level engineering studies. Participants explore the implications of chemistry in engineering applications and the mindset required for success in the field.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the necessity of excelling in a university-level chemistry course for civil engineering, seeking advice on its importance.
  • Another participant emphasizes the value of doing well in all subjects, including chemistry, noting its usefulness in engineering, particularly in developing intuition.
  • A different viewpoint highlights that knowledge of chemistry is crucial for understanding materials used in engineering, including their microscopic structures and responses to environmental conditions.
  • One participant expresses concern about the idea of attending an easier private school for chemistry, questioning whether basic knowledge of grade 12 chemistry is sufficient.
  • Another participant strongly advises against pursuing engineering with a mindset focused on seeking easier paths, suggesting that such an attitude could lead to inadequate engineering practices.
  • A participant lists specific chemistry-related issues relevant to civil engineering, such as concrete reactions and corrosion processes, indicating the technical depth of chemistry in the field.
  • There is a consensus among some participants that a serious commitment to engineering is necessary, contrasting it with the perception of easier majors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and importance of chemistry for civil engineering. While some argue for its relevance and the need for a strong foundation, others question the approach of seeking easier alternatives in education. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific level of chemistry knowledge required.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various chemistry concepts and their applications in civil engineering, but there is no consensus on the extent to which high school chemistry knowledge impacts success in engineering studies.

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My question is do I need to be exceptionally well in chemistry 12 university level course when going to university next year. I am planning to go into civil engineering next year in university; It deals with structural and transportation systems?

All advice is appreciated.
 
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You should strive to do exceptionally well in all things, even the generic history or political science classes. As an engineer, you should get into that mindset straight away.

Also, chemistry is definitely useful for an engineer. I'm an aerospace engineering major myself, and I've found chemistry very helpful, especially the intuition involved.
 
Regardless of which branch of engineering you go into, you're going to be building or designing... and those objects or systems that you are building / designing / optimizing are more than likely going to involve MATERIALS. Knowing chemistry will help you understand more about the structure of those materials on a microscopic scale, and how those structures might respond under different environmental conditions... including some of the processes that might weaken or degrade those materials (and even stretch them to their limits).
 
Okay I understand but I was wondering if I could do it in a private school where the course is easier then in day school?

Cause I know a private school where the tests are easier compared to day school?

So do you think I need to know the basics of grade 12 SCH4U or as much as possible?



--thanks
 
Buddy, I'd seriously advise against engineering for you. If you think you can survive engineering school with an attitude like "I'll go to another school where it's easier", then you're frankly mistaken. And I don't want anyone building a bridge or a dam for me who thinks that way.
 
Chemistry in civil engineering?

Well let me see

Carbonate attack of concrete

Alkali -silica reaction (otherwise known as concrete cancer)

Sulphate attack in sulphate bearing groundwater

Anodic and cathodic protection of pipelines and other structures

Arrenhius equation in corrosion of prestressing cables

Bogue compounds in cement

Passivation of steel

Polymer - bitumen binders for macadam roadways
 
Agreed--that attitude leads to semi-functioning engineers and they're the reason our integrity is questioned.

You want an easy major--take history.

If you want to try your hardest and then some all the while loving what you do--pick engineering.

If chemistry is what you're worried about I would love to see you deal with PDE's or Dynamic's.
 

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