Undergrad Clarification on a Peskin Equation

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The discussion focuses on a specific equation from Peskin's QFT book, where the user seeks clarification on the origin of higher powers in momentum terms. They propose starting with the four-momentum representation and expanding the energy term around a small momentum limit. This approach leads to a detailed expression that includes the squared differences of momenta and additional terms that account for higher-order momentum contributions. The user emphasizes the importance of understanding the derivation process to grasp the equation's implications fully. The conversation highlights the complexity of quantum field theory calculations and the nuances of mathematical expansions.
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Hi all,
I am currently reading through Peskin's QFT book and have a question regarding an equation that seems very simple in nature:
On page 121, below equation (4.121), there is an equation
##(p'-p)^2 = -|\textbf{p}'-\textbf{p}|^2 + \mathcal{O}(\textbf{p}^4)##
I was just wondering where exactly the higher powers in ##\textbf{p}## came from?

Thanks.
 
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You could start with say ## p = (E,\vec p) = (\sqrt{m^2+|\vec p|^2} ,\vec p)## and expand ## E = m\sqrt{1+|\vec p|^2/m^2} ## around ##|\vec p|^2/m^2 = 0## which is ## m+ |\vec p|^2/2m + \ldots ##
Instead of just doing what the authors did in eq 4.121

Then you would get
##(p'-p)^2 = - |\vec p \, {}' - \vec p |^2 + {E'}^2 + E^2 - 2E'E ##
## = - |\vec p \, {}' - \vec p |^2 + (m+ |\vec p \, {}'|^2/2m + \ldots)^2 + (m+ |\vec p |^2/2m + \ldots)^2 - 2(m+ |\vec p \, {}'|^2/2m + \ldots) (m+ |\vec p |^2/2m + \ldots) ##
## = - |\vec p \, {}' - \vec p |^2 + \mathcal{O}(|\vec p |^4, |\vec p \, {}'|^4 ,|\vec p |^2|\vec p \, {}'|^2 )##
 
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malawi_glenn said:
You could start with say ## p = (E,\vec p) = (\sqrt{m^2+|\vec p|^2} ,\vec p)## and expand ## E = m\sqrt{1+|\vec p|^2/m^2} ## around ##|\vec p|^2/m^2 = 0## which is ## m+ |\vec p|^2/2m + \ldots ##
Instead of just doing what the authors did in eq 4.121

Then you would get
##(p'-p)^2 = - |\vec p \, {}' - \vec p |^2 + {E'}^2 + E^2 - 2E'E ##
## = - |\vec p \, {}' - \vec p |^2 + (m+ |\vec p \, {}'|^2/2m + \ldots)^2 + (m+ |\vec p |^2/2m + \ldots)^2 - 2(m+ |\vec p \, {}'|^2/2m + \ldots) (m+ |\vec p |^2/2m + \ldots) ##
## = - |\vec p \, {}' - \vec p |^2 + \mathcal{O}(|\vec p |^4, |\vec p \, {}'|^4 ,|\vec p |^2|\vec p \, {}'|^2 )##
Great, thanks a lot!
 

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