Clarification on a Peskin Equation

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The discussion clarifies the derivation of the equation (p'-p)^2 = -|\textbf{p}'-\textbf{p}|^2 + \mathcal{O}(\textbf{p}^4) from Peskin's Quantum Field Theory book. The participants detail how to expand the energy term E = m\sqrt{1+|\vec p|^2/m^2} around |\vec p|^2/m^2 = 0, leading to the inclusion of higher-order terms in the momentum variables. This expansion results in the final expression incorporating terms of order |\vec p|^4, |\vec p \,'|^4, and |\vec p|^2|\vec p \,'|^2, thereby providing a comprehensive understanding of the equation's structure.

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Hi all,
I am currently reading through Peskin's QFT book and have a question regarding an equation that seems very simple in nature:
On page 121, below equation (4.121), there is an equation
##(p'-p)^2 = -|\textbf{p}'-\textbf{p}|^2 + \mathcal{O}(\textbf{p}^4)##
I was just wondering where exactly the higher powers in ##\textbf{p}## came from?

Thanks.
 
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You could start with say ## p = (E,\vec p) = (\sqrt{m^2+|\vec p|^2} ,\vec p)## and expand ## E = m\sqrt{1+|\vec p|^2/m^2} ## around ##|\vec p|^2/m^2 = 0## which is ## m+ |\vec p|^2/2m + \ldots ##
Instead of just doing what the authors did in eq 4.121

Then you would get
##(p'-p)^2 = - |\vec p \, {}' - \vec p |^2 + {E'}^2 + E^2 - 2E'E ##
## = - |\vec p \, {}' - \vec p |^2 + (m+ |\vec p \, {}'|^2/2m + \ldots)^2 + (m+ |\vec p |^2/2m + \ldots)^2 - 2(m+ |\vec p \, {}'|^2/2m + \ldots) (m+ |\vec p |^2/2m + \ldots) ##
## = - |\vec p \, {}' - \vec p |^2 + \mathcal{O}(|\vec p |^4, |\vec p \, {}'|^4 ,|\vec p |^2|\vec p \, {}'|^2 )##
 
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malawi_glenn said:
You could start with say ## p = (E,\vec p) = (\sqrt{m^2+|\vec p|^2} ,\vec p)## and expand ## E = m\sqrt{1+|\vec p|^2/m^2} ## around ##|\vec p|^2/m^2 = 0## which is ## m+ |\vec p|^2/2m + \ldots ##
Instead of just doing what the authors did in eq 4.121

Then you would get
##(p'-p)^2 = - |\vec p \, {}' - \vec p |^2 + {E'}^2 + E^2 - 2E'E ##
## = - |\vec p \, {}' - \vec p |^2 + (m+ |\vec p \, {}'|^2/2m + \ldots)^2 + (m+ |\vec p |^2/2m + \ldots)^2 - 2(m+ |\vec p \, {}'|^2/2m + \ldots) (m+ |\vec p |^2/2m + \ldots) ##
## = - |\vec p \, {}' - \vec p |^2 + \mathcal{O}(|\vec p |^4, |\vec p \, {}'|^4 ,|\vec p |^2|\vec p \, {}'|^2 )##
Great, thanks a lot!
 

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