Clebsch-Gordan coefficients calculation

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The discussion revolves around calculating the Clebsch-Gordan coefficients for the quantum states with total angular momentum values j1=3/2 and j2=1/2. Participants are exploring the application of recursion formulas and the use of lowering and raising operators in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of lowering operators and the relationships between different angular momentum states. There is uncertainty about the correct combinations of j and m values to use in calculations, and some participants express confusion about the procedures for determining the coefficients.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts and clarifying concepts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between states and the application of operators, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct coefficients yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is also a mention of potential mistakes in calculations and the need to verify the values of j1 and j2.

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Homework Statement


So i have to calculate the Clebsch-gordan coefficients for the state j1=3/2 and j2=1/2[/B]

Homework Equations


Recursiom formula, lowering and uppering operator[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


I have tried to calculate the first set of the coefficients stating that:
L- l2,2> = L- l3/2,1/2>l1/2,1/2>

For the left side I got that it is equal to 2hl2,1>. Is that correct? I can't get the right coefficients on the right side. In general, I have trouble understanding which combinations of j and m to use tobget what I have to do. Is there some procedure to get all of them in order? Right now I am trying to guess what to use and see if I get the right combination.[/B]
 
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abcs22 said:
For the left side I got that it is equal to 2hl2,1>. Is that correct?
Yes.

abcs22 said:
I can't get the right coefficients on the right side.
You should start from the states in the two representations which are proportional to each other. One of such states are ##|3/2,3/2\rangle |1/2,1/2\rangle## and ##|2,2\rangle##. Therefore, ##|2,2\rangle = c|3/2,3/2\rangle |1/2,1/2\rangle##. The constant of proportionality ##c## is in general a unimodular complex number, but conventionally it is chosen to be ##1##. Thus ##|2,2\rangle = |3/2,3/2\rangle |1/2,1/2\rangle##. Then apply the lowering operator on both sides like you have done and in the RHS, use ##L_- = L_{1-}+L_{2-}##.
 
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abcs22 said:
For the left side I got that it is equal to 2hl2,1>. Is that correct?

Yes, assuming that h means ##\hbar##.

abcs22 said:
In general, I have trouble understanding which combinations of j and m to use tobget what I have to do. Is there some procedure to get all of them in order?
Given that you are adding together ##j_1## and ##j_2##, then the allowed values of ##J## are
$$
J = j_1 + j_2, j_1+j_2 - 1, \ldots, \left| j_1 - j_2 \right|
$$
Second, the triangle rule has to be followed: ##M = m_1 + m_2##. So in the case you have, the result will have to be 0 since ##M = 2## while ##m_1+m_2 = 1##.
 
Thank you! I got the first ones:
I2,1> =√3/2 I1/2,1/2> + 1/2 I3/2,-1/2>

Is that ok? I tried applying lowering again on this expression but didn't get the solution. How do I know where to use the operator next?
 
abcs22 said:
Is that ok?
If that square root applies only on the 3 in the numerator, then it's fine.
abcs22 said:
I tried applying lowering again on this expression but didn't get the solution. How do I know where to use the operator next?
Why won't it work? To get |2,0> you should indeed apply the lowering operator once more on both sides. Maybe you just made a mistake during calculation.
 
abcs22 said:
Thank you! I got the first ones:
I2,1> =√3/2 I1/2,1/2> + 1/2 I3/2,-1/2>
That's not correct, check the values of ##j_!## and ##j_2##.
 
DrClaude said:
That's not correct, check the values of ##j_!## and ##j_2##.
Actually he is using ##|m_1,m_2\rangle## notation on the RHS while the values of ##j_1## and ##j_2## are only implied.
 
blue_leaf77 said:
Actually he is using ##|m_1,m_2\rangle## notation on the RHS while the values of ##j_1## and ##j_2## are only implied.
Right o:) Nevermind...
 

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