Climate change due to combustion of fossil fuels

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The discussion centers on the contribution of fossil fuel combustion to global warming, exploring both the direct heat produced and the effects of greenhouse gases on climate change. Participants examine the significance of energy released from combustion in relation to the Earth's capacity to absorb heat and the implications for local and global temperature changes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the overall contribution of fossil fuel combustion to global warming, asking if the total energy released is significant or negligible.
  • Another participant suggests that the actual heat produced by combustion is negligible, attributing climate change primarily to the effects of greenhouse gases on heat retention.
  • A participant provides data on humanity's total energy use compared to solar energy received by Earth, indicating that human energy use is significantly smaller.
  • Local measurements of energy consumption and its impact on temperature are discussed, with specific examples from Germany, Japan, and the Netherlands showing measurable temperature perturbations due to energy consumption.
  • One participant references a study indicating that climate model simulations do not show a correlation between CO2 emissions and temperature trends, suggesting that modeled temperature trends are largely insensitive to industrial CO2 emissions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of heat produced by fossil fuel combustion and its role in climate change. There is no consensus on the impact of CO2 emissions on temperature trends, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific local measurements and the unresolved nature of the relationship between CO2 emissions and temperature trends as indicated by climate models.

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Has anyone ever researched what contribution, if any, the actual combustion of fossil fuels contributes to global warming? If you added up all the BTU's of energy which have been released in the last few decades, would it add up to something or is it negligible? Of course, all motion due to burning fossil fuels ends up as heat due to friction, etc (ok, maybe some EM energy leaves the system, and things like that), but is the capacity of the Earth great enough to absorb this heat?

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I don't have the reference handy, but if I remember the actual heat produced is negligible. It's supposed to be the effects of the gasses on incoming/outgoing heat that causes climate change.
 
Indeed, total "technical" energy use by humanity (meaning, not counting the sun that heats us and makes vegetables grow etc...) is about 16 TW. The total received power by the Earth from the sun is about 176 PW, 10 000 times more.
 
Yet, on local levels it is measurable.

http://www.knmi.nl/~laatdej/2006joc1292.pdf

in the conclusion:

The proposed physical mechanism is that energy – which is consumed in large quantities in these areas – is a conserved quantity in any physical system, and at some point this energy will be released into the atmosphere in the form of a direct near-surface temperature (energy) perturbation. By way of illustration, the average energy consumption for Germany is 1.3 Wm−2, for Japan it is 2.9 Wm−2, for the Netherlands it is almost 4 Wm−2, while for certain industrialized regions it can easily be 20–70 Wm−2 (IIASA, 2003; Crutzen, 2004). Temperature perturbations of up to 0.9 K were found by Block et al. (2004) for a 90-day simulation of a constant surface flux of 2 Wm−2 over Europe’s land areas, which suggest that the significant regional temperature trend enhancements discussed in this work and in Paper I could be partly explained by this process.

Note that it also find:

Our analysis of climate model simulations of GHG warming confirms our earlier results (Paper I), namely, that they do not show any kind of CO2 emission–temperature trend correlation. In fact, the modeled temperature trends are quite insensitive to the magnitude of the industrial CO2 emissions.
 
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