Closed Subset Addition in Metric Spaces: Real Analysis Homework Help

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Homework Statement



Let E, F be two closed and non-empty subsets of R, where R is seen as a metric space with teh distance d(a,b)=|a-b| for a,b ϵ R.

Suppose E + F := { e+f |e ϵ E, f ϵ F}. Is is true that E+F has to be closed?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure how to start this one.
 
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This is not an easy one, by far!

But consider:

A=\{...,-4,-3,-2,-1\}

and

B=\{1+1/2,1+1/2+1/3,1+1/2+1/3+1/4,...\}

Note that E+F is closed if one of E or F is compact...
 
micromass said:
This is not an easy one, by far!

But consider:

A=\{...,-4,-3,-2,-1\}

and

B=\{1+1/2,1+1/2+1/3,1+1/2+1/3+1/4,...\}

Note that E+F is closed if one of E or F is compact...

I'll agree it's not easy. It does take some head scratching. Here's another one to think about on a different line. Take A=Z (the integers) and B=Z*sqrt(2). micromass's suggestion is really pretty clever though once you figure it out.
 
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