Cno cycle dense plasma focus fusion

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The discussion explores the potential of using the carbon-nitrogen-oxygen (CNO) cycle in dense plasma focus devices for aneutronic fusion power. It highlights that the CNO process requires extremely high temperatures, exceeding 16 million Kelvin, which are typically found in massive stars rather than in terrestrial environments. Participants note that pressures from the CNO cycle surpass what can be achieved on Earth, raising questions about practicality. The conversation also touches on the advancements in focus fusion using Boron-11 and hydrogen, which require lower temperatures and may offer a more feasible path forward. Additionally, ideas about utilizing superhot plasma conductivity and nanotechnology for fuel injection into plasma are proposed as potential solutions for containment challenges.
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hello, new to site. This is my first post. I just was wondering what any ones thoughts were on using the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen cycle in a dense plasma focus device to produce aneutronic fusion power.
 
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hello, new to site. This is my first post. I just was wondering what any ones thoughts were on using the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen cycle in a dense plasma focus device to produce aneutronic fusion power.
The CNO process takes place at high temperatures in high density plasmas, the product of which produces high pressures beyond the capability of mechanical contraint.

The CNO cycle requires slightly higher temperatures than the p-p chain; it produces very little energy below about 16 million Kelvin (1.378773 keV). The central temperature of the Sun is just below this critical value, around 15 million Kelvin. Only stars with masses higher than our Sun reach such temperatures in their cores.

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Ref: http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys230/lectures/stellar_energy/stellar_energy.html
 
thanks for the reply.
 
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Why go there (CNO)

The focus fusion are getting pretty close to success with their Boron -11 and Hydrogen fuel. Which doesn't require quite as high temperatures. For now at least why bother with other fuel cycles?
 
Superconductivity of plasma the solution to Focus Fusion?

Superhot plasma has very good conductivity. As it heats up, it might be able to shrink away from a tokamak wall provided it has focus fusion current in it. This might solve containment issues as the plasma ring could then be quite tiny and isolated.

For commercialisation, I imagined a nanotechnology tube (if it were possible) firing hydrogen at a slowish rate into the centre of the plasma dot.
 
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