Coefficient of Restitution problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the coefficient of restitution (COR) for a squash racquet and ball collision. The user initially misapplies the COR formula, yielding an incorrect value greater than one. Clarification is provided on the importance of direction in velocity, emphasizing that one must assign positive and negative values based on chosen reference directions. The correct approach involves using the velocities of the racquet and ball with appropriate signs to reflect their opposite directions. Ultimately, understanding the distinction between speed and velocity is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Hello, I have this simple COR problem that I seem to be a bit stuck on.

Homework Statement


A 1.25 kg squash racquet swung at 37 m/s contacts a ball moving at 42 m/s in the opposite direction. Immediately after impact the racquet has a velocity of 25 m/s and the ball has a velocity of 50 m/s. What is the coefficient of restitution associated with the impact?

Homework Equations


I've been using e= (V1-V2)/(U1-U2)

The Attempt at a Solution


When I use this equation I get 5, but obviously that's wrong since it shouldn't be greater than 1.

Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks so much
 
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CCC1212 said:
Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks so much

The operative word is direction!
 
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PeroK said:
The operative word is direction!
I sort of had a feeling this may be the case. Should I be using "U1+U2" instead of "U2-U1". Or am I way off?
 
CCC1212 said:
I sort of had a feeling this may be the case. Should I be using "U1+U2" instead of "U2-U1". Or am I way off?

Then depends on the direction of ##U_1## and ##U_2##. Are you using speeds or velocities?
 
PeroK said:
Then depends on the direction of ##U_1## and ##U_2##. Are you using speeds or velocities?

Velocities since it says 'in the opposite direction' I'm assuming.
 
CCC1212 said:
Velocities since it says 'in the opposite direction' I'm assuming.

So, what are the initial velocities of the racket and ball?
 
They are 37 m/s (racket) and 42 m/s (ball)

Ahhh I think I see what you may be getting at. Because it says the ball is moving in the opposite direction, should I be writing the equation like...

50-25/37- -42
 
CCC1212 said:
They are 37 m/s (racket) and 42 m/s (ball)

No, for velocities that can't be correct if they are in opposite directions.

CCC1212 said:
Ahhh I think I see what you may be getting at. Because it says the ball is moving in the opposite direction, should I be writing the equation like...

50-25/37- -42

Only if you know why!
 
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PeroK said:
No, for velocities that can't be correct if they are in opposite directions.
Could you explain that statement. I thought the difference between speed and velocity is that velocity considers direction?
 
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CCC1212 said:
Could you explain that statement. I thought the difference between speed and velocity is that velocity considers direction?

When you have a problem in 1D it's up to you to decide what direction is positive and what direction is negative. In this case I might decide that the racket is moving in the positive direction, which means that the velocity of the racket is ##37m/s##.

The ball is moving in the opposite direction, so its velocity must be ##-42 m/s##.
 
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PeroK said:
When you have a problem in 1D it's up to you to decide what direction is positive and what direction is negative. In this case I might decide that the racket is moving in the positive direction, which means that the velocity of the racket is ##37m/s##.

The ball is moving in the opposite direction, so its velocity must be ##-42 m/s##.

Ahhh of course. Thanks so much!
 
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