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On the topic of unintended plagiarism, I remember a popular fantasy author accused of lifting characters, terms and plot devices for her highly successful series of juvenile novels from a rather obscure short story published when she was a child, since out of print. Her defenders argued that 1) if she had read that story as a child, any reuse of ideas was unconscious and marginal; and 2) her elaborate development of the characters, setting, and story greatly exceeded any claim the short story author could attach to her development and subsequent book and film rights.
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This reminds me of that time when I did an ego-Google and discovered someone at a top-10% university had plagiarized a topology essay of mine … 
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Or to quote Tom Lehrer:phinds said:from my wood ID web site:
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Plagiarise! Plagiarise!
Let no one else's work evade your eyes!
Remember why the good Lord made your eyes!
So don't shade your eyes, but plagiarise,
Plagiarise, plagiarise, plagiarise!
(Only be sure to call it always please, "research".)
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Ibix said:Or to quote Tom Lehrer:
Plagiarise! Plagiarise!
Let no one else's work evade your eyes!
Remember why the good Lord made your eyes!
So don't shade your eyes, but plagiarise,
Plagiarise, plagiarise, plagiarise!
(Only be sure to call it always please, "research".)
Oh look, we’re back on topic!
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Both on topic and derailed in one post. I'm quite proud of it.Orodruin said:Oh look, we’re back on topic!
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Well, they still are detectors, they're just rally bad at it - very high false-positive track record. :)Orodruin said:these tools are not "plagiarism detectors", they are text matching tools.
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False positive, or false inference/conclusion? Just because there is a match, there is not necessarily plagiarism. For example, if I enclose a sentence or two in quotes and add a [1] reference, do these tools understand that?DaveC426913 said:very high false-positive track record
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Very much not. That is up to the user.berkeman said:For example, if I enclose a sentence or two in quotes and add a [1] reference, do these tools understand that?![]()
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As I said, it is a text matching tool. If you quote something verbatim then obviously it is going to return a match. It is up to the user of the tool to determine if it is actual plagiarism or not.berkeman said:Yikes. How am I supposed to quote from another paper with attribution? I'm probably misunderstanding your reply.
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The detector simply detects what it is programmed to detect, much like a pregnancy test. Pregnancy test are still pregnancy tests, even what they are detecting is HCG and have a degree of error in what conclusions should be inferred from that.berkeman said:False positive, or false inference/conclusion? Just because there is a match, there is not necessarily plagiarism. For example, if I enclose a sentence or two in quotes and add a [1] reference, do these tools understand that?![]()
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BillTre said:By that logic, the previous several messages were plagiarizing a preceding message, just like this one.![]()
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Isn't he entitled to a jury of his peers? The fire hydrant and the tree at least look more like pee-ees.dextercioby said:
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