What Color is the Bear Outside the Hunter's Cabin?

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The discussion centers around a riddle involving a hunter who travels a specific route and encounters a bear. The key point is determining the bear's color based on the hunter's location. The consensus is that if the hunter is at the North Pole, the bear would be a polar bear, which is white. However, if the hunter is at a different latitude, the bear could be brown, black, or grey. The calculations suggest that the hunter's cabin is likely at the North Pole, as traveling 4000 miles south leads to a latitude that is not feasible for the described journey. Some participants humorously suggest alternative bear colors, including an orange bear, referencing a prank involving a dyed bear. The conversation also touches on the complexities of latitude and the potential for multiple solutions, but ultimately concludes that the bear's color is most likely white if the hunter is at the North Pole.
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Okay, so a hunter gets out of his cabin on morning and gets into his jet powered surface cruiser. He travels 4000 miles south; turns eastward and travels 4000 miles and finally turns north and cruises for 4000 miles, at the end of which he is back outside his cabin. Now he sees a bear standing outside his kitchen window and eyeing the pie he had left to cool.

What is the color of the bear ?

Give complete solution, with reasoning !

eg : if x^2 = 4 then solutions are x=2, and x=-2 because 2^2 = 4 = (-2)^4

I know, I know...enough crap already.
 
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First, where is the hunter? Either at the North pole, or at any line of latitude such that, if you go 4000 miles south, you reach a line of latitude whose length times some natural number is 4000 miles. And when I talk about the length of the line of latitude, I mean the circumference of the cross-section of the Earth at that latitude.

If the hunter's at the north pole, the bear is probably white-looking (a polar bear). If that's not where he is, then the bear might be brownish, blackish, or greyish; those are the only other colours I can think that bears are found in, and I think there are enough places in the world that the hunter could be so that the bear might be anyone of those colours.
 
AKG said:
... and I think there are enough places in the world that the hunter could be so that the bear might be anyone of those colours.

Not very many places, really !
 
AKG said:
First, where is the hunter? Either at the North pole, or at any line of latitude such that, if you go 4000 miles south, you reach a line of latitude whose length times some natural number is 4000 miles. And when I talk about the length of the line of latitude, I mean the circumference of the cross-section of the Earth at that latitude.

If the hunter's at the north pole, the bear is probably white-looking (a polar bear). If that's not where he is, then the bear might be brownish, blackish, or greyish; those are the only other colours I can think that bears are found in, and I think there are enough places in the world that the hunter could be so that the bear might be anyone of those colours.


If you travel 4000 miles south you are down around the 60 degree north line of latitude. The length of this line is about 12000 miles. The line of latitude that is 4000 miles is about 80 degrees north. Since this is well within 4000 miles of the north pole, you can't go 4000 miles south to get to it. This means that the cabin is at the north pole.

This makes the bear orange. Since no polar bears live that far north, and, as I recall, a wealthy prankster who hated this joke mounted an expedition to the pole to place the orange-dyed, frozen carcass of a bear at the exact pole.

Njorl
 
Ah.

A south american speckled black bear living at about 50 degrees south is one solution.

Njorl
 
cos(x)=1/(2pim)

yields how far south (x in radians) the cottage is, with m=to an integer

As you get to near 4000 miles from the south pole, you get an infinite number of discrete solutions, though exactly 4000 miles from the south pole is not a solution. The north pole is a solution.

Njorl
 
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Oops.

I misread my table. I thought the Earth had an 8000 mile radius, it is an 8000 mile diameter.

I'll change my equation.

Njorl
 
Yes, please. 50 S was different from what I intended, but ...
 
You don't find the speckled bear that far south..only in Venezuela, Colombia, northern Brazil, and a few in Peru and Bolivia.
 
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I also screwed up the algebra. Hehe
 
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The allowable latitudes for the eastward movement are defined by

cosx=1/(2pim)

cos-1(2pim)=x

For m=1, you get about 10 degrees from the pole (80 degrees south)

the cottage will be 4000 miles north of this, or about 57 degrees north of this at 22-23 degrees south.

For higher values of m, the cottage will move no more than 10 more degrees southward, to about 33 degrees south.

Njorl
 
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Njorl said:
the cottage will be 4000 miles north of this, or about 57 degrees north of this at 22-23 degrees south.

For higher values of m, the cottage will move no more than 10 more degrees southward, to about 33 degrees south.

Njorl

Good, so what's the answer ?
 
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Gokul43201 said:
Good, so what's the answer ?

Koala bears are tan!

Njorl
 
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Hah, what I've been waiting for !

Koala bears are not bears. In fact, they're not even related to bears ! But this is what I've been hoping someone would say, and my patience has been rewarded.

Your previous guess of the speckled bear is the correct answer. They are dark brown, with yellow speckles.



AKG & Njorl share the pie !
 
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Gokul43201 said:
AKG & Njorl share the pie !


Mmmm...pi/2...orthoganalicious.

Njorl
 
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Gokul43201 said:
What is the color of the bear ?
Black & White! :rolleyes: Like Pandas, i bet! :biggrin:
You see - after such a long trip, in polar conditions, surface cruisers start malfunctioning: oil starts leaking, the ice underneath is melted due to the overheated engine :devil: ... the hunter repairs it in the "yard" (just outside the kitchen) so there are too many oil spots on the earth... that's why the poor bear is partially black :smile:
 

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