Commutation between spin-operator and creation operator(QFT)

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The discussion revolves around the commutation relations between the spin operator and the creation operator in the context of quantum field theory (QFT), specifically concerning transverse polarized photons. Participants explore the derivation of these relations as presented in an exercise from "QFT for the Gifted Amateur," focusing on the implications of Noether's theorem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in deriving the commutation relation for the z-component of the spin operator, ##\hat{S}_z##, for a transverse polarized photon traveling in the z-direction.
  • Another participant inquires about the definition of ##\hat{S}_z## as presented in the book, indicating a need for clarification on its formulation.
  • A later reply mentions that the mode expansion simplifies the process of taking the commutator using the defining commutation relations for the creation and annihilation operators.
  • One participant asserts that for a photon with momentum in the z-direction, the relevant operator is the helicity operator, which corresponds to the projection of total angular momentum along the photon momentum direction, noting that massless photons exhibit two helicity states with eigenvalues of ##\pm 1##.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and approaches to the problem, with no consensus reached on the derivation or the specific definition of ##\hat{S}_z##. The discussion includes both exploratory reasoning and technical clarifications, indicating that multiple views and methods are being considered.

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Some participants may be missing specific definitions or assumptions regarding the operators involved, which could affect their ability to derive the commutation relations. The discussion does not resolve these dependencies.

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Want to find the commutation relation between the z-component spin-operator and creation operator for a transverse polarized photon.
Hi, so I'm currently reading the book "QFT for the gifted amateur", and doing the exercises. In exercise 14.2, which in itself is fine, the authors say that you can show using Noether's theorem that for a transverse polarized photon of momentum q, the z-component of the spin operator obeys the commutation relation:
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Here, the epsilon is the polariztion vectors, and we assume the photon is traveling in the z-direction.
I really want to be able to derive this for myself, but I have tried for a while now, but without success. Anyone have any tips on how to do this?
 
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How is ##\hat{S}_z## defined in the book, I don't have at hand right now?
 
vanhees71 said:
How is ##\hat{S}_z## defined in the book, I don't have at hand right now?
I know the mode expansion can be written:
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Turns out I was overthinking it, and once I had the mode expansion it was very easy to just take the commutator by using the defining commutation relations for the creation and anihilation operators.
 
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For a photon with ##\vec{p}## in ##z## direction that's the helicity operator (i.e., the projection of the total angular momentum to the direction of the photon momentum). That's the correct polarization quantity for a massless photon. A photon has only two helicity states with eigenvalues ##\pm 1##.
 

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