Commutativity of differentiation in a special case

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The discussion revolves around proving a specific relationship involving the commutativity of differentiation, particularly in the context of functions dependent on multiple variables and their derivatives with respect to time. The subject area includes calculus and differential equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between total and partial derivatives, with some suggesting the use of the chain rule. Others discuss the equality of mixed partial derivatives and reference existing proofs for related cases. Questions arise regarding the necessity of returning to the definition of derivatives and the implications of specific conditions in proofs.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and discussing potential approaches. There is a recognition of the need to establish the equality of mixed partials, and some participants are considering extending the theorem to more complex functions. However, there is no explicit consensus on the methods or interpretations being proposed.

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Some participants question the assumptions made in the original problem, particularly regarding the limits and conditions under which the derivatives are being evaluated. There is also a mention of specific constraints in the proofs referenced, such as the use of certain constants in inequalities.

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I'd like to prove \frac{d}{dt}[\frac{\partial}{\partial{x}}f(x(t),y(t),t)]=\frac{\partial}{\partial{x}}[\frac{d}{dt}f(x(t),y(t),t)].

Attempt
\begin{equation*}\begin{split}<br /> \frac{d}{dt}[\frac{\partial}{\partial x}f(x(t),y(t),t)]=\frac{d}{dt}\lim_{\epsilon\to 0}\frac{f(x(t)+\epsilon,y(t),t)-f(x(t),y(t),t)}{\epsilon}\\<br /> =\lim_{\delta\to 0}\lim_{\epsilon\to 0} \frac{[f(x(t+\delta)+\epsilon,y(t+\delta),t+\delta)-f(x(t)+\epsilon,y(t),t)]-[f(x(t+\delta),y(t+\delta),t+\delta)-f(x(t),y(t),t)]}{\epsilon\delta}\end{split}\end{equation*}

So if my previous steps are correct, I need to show that the 2 limits are commutative, which I have no idea...
 
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Did you know you can express the total derivative as a sum of partial derivatives?
 
Are you required to go all the way back to the definition of derivative? If not, use the chain rule as hunt mat suggests.
 
Thanks for the hints!

\frac{d}{dt}\partial_{x}f(x(t), y(t), t)=(\sum\dot{x}_k \partial_{x_k}+\partial_t)\partial_{x}f=\sum\dot x_k\partial_{x_k}\partial_{x}f+\partial_t\partial_{x}f.

At this point, I need to show the "equality of mixed partials". I found the proof of f_{xy}=f_{yx} for f(x, y) here: http://www.sju.edu/~pklingsb/clairaut.pdf

My function is f(x(t), y(t), t) so a bit different.

For proving f_{x(t)\hspace{1mm}t} = f_{t\hspace{1 mm}x(t)} for f(x(t), t), I think the proof in the note works if I substitute c=x(a) and d=x(b).

I also think the theorem can be extended to f(x_1(t), x_2(t), ..., x_n(t), t) if I imagine slicing the n dimensional space by a plane parallel to x_i x_j plane (or x_i\hspace{1 mm}t plane).

So I have f_{x_i x_j}=f_{x_j x_i} and f_{x_i\hspace{1 mm}t}=f_{t\hspace{1 mm}x_i} for f(x_1(t), ..., x_n(t), t). Is that okay?

By the way, I don't understand why the author of the note wrote f_{xy}(x,y)-f_{yx}(x,y)\ge \frac{h}{2}. Is that arbitrary? Can I use h/3 instead for example?
 

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