Complex Numbers Involving a Circle

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The discussion revolves around the transformation of the equation of a circle in the complex plane, specifically the equation |z - z_0| = R, into a different form involving real and imaginary components of complex numbers. The subject area is complex numbers and their geometric interpretation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore different representations of complex numbers, including using rectangular coordinates (x + iy) and polar forms. Some question the necessity of certain transformations and seek clarification on how to simplify expressions involving complex conjugates.

Discussion Status

Several participants have shared their attempts at manipulating the equation, with some expressing confusion about the steps involved. There is a mix of approaches being discussed, including the use of identities related to complex numbers. While some guidance has been offered, there is no clear consensus on the best method to proceed.

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Participants note the challenge of understanding the relationship between the original equation and its transformed form, with some expressing uncertainty about the relevance of using specific forms of complex numbers. There is also mention of the importance of learning properties of complex numbers to facilitate problem-solving.

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Homework Statement



Show that the equation [tex]|z - z_0| = R[/tex] of a circle, centered at [tex]z_0[/tex] with radius R, can be written

[tex]|z|^2 - 2Re(z\bar{z_0}) + |z_0|^2 = R^2[/tex].


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Honestly, I have no clue where to start with this problem. I know that I need to reduce the given equation to the basic equation of a circle but I do not know where to start.
I also know that the two equations are almost exact except for the [tex]- 2Re(z\bar{z_0})[/tex] which should reduce to zero somehow I just do not know where to start.

I know [tex]Re(z) = Re(\bar{z}) = Re\frac{(z + \bar{z})}{2} = x[/tex]. Is this where I start?
 
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Start with z=x+iy and z0=x0+iy0
 
Thank you for that tidbit it really helped me almost solve it. So here is what I got and I am stumped:

[tex]2Re(z\bar{z_0}) = 2\frac{z\bar{z_0} + \overline{z\bar{z_0}}}{2} = z\bar{z_0} + \bar{z}z_0[/tex]

[tex]z\bar{z_0} = (x+iy)(x_0 - iy_0) = (xx_0 - yy_0 + iyx_0 - xiy_0)[/tex]

[tex]\bar{z}z_0 = (x - iy)(x_0 + iy_0) = (xx_0 - yy_0 - iyx_0 + xiy_0)[/tex]

So [tex]z\bar{z_0} + \bar{z}z_0 = 2xx_0 - 2yy_0[/tex]

Is there a method where I can simplify this anymore? because I'm clueless.
 
[itex]|z- z_0|= \sqrt{(z- z_0)(\overline{z}- \overline{z_0})}[/itex] so [itex]z-z_0|= R[/itex] is the same as [itex]|z- z_0|= \sqrt{(z- z_0)(\overline{z}- \overline{z_0})}= R[/itex]. square both sides of that. I would NOT go to "x+ iy".

Sorry about the nessed up Latex!
 
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HallsofIvy said:
[tex]|z- z_0|= \sqrt{(z- z_0)(\overline{z}- \overline{z_0})}[/tex] so [tex]|z-z_0|= R[/tex] is the same as [tex]|z- z_0|= \sqrt{(z- z_0)(\overline{z}- \overline{z_0})}= R[/tex]. square both sides of that. I would NOT go to "x+ iy".

Thank you Halls but that seriously confuses me. I do not understand how I should apply it to my problem. Anyone else got anything in mind?
 
Neither would I use the "x+iy" route.
Recall the identity [tex]z\overline{z} = |z|^{2}[/tex]
 
Thank you so much Fightfish. It was so easy to solve once I used that identity. Goes to show I need to learn the properties better.
 

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