Condensation as humidity control

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of using condensation as a method for controlling humidity in a small living room. Participants explore the feasibility of creating a DIY dehumidifier by utilizing cold objects to induce condensation and discuss methods for measuring humidity in the air.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using a cold object, like a cold beer, to create condensation as a potential method for reducing room humidity.
  • Another participant notes that this method is similar to how commercial dehumidifiers operate.
  • There is a suggestion to measure humidity using a device available in stores and to utilize a psychrometric chart to determine the dew point.
  • One participant cautions that while DIY dehumidifiers can be created, they require significant energy and a refrigeration unit to be effective, and simpler solutions may not remove substantial amounts of water.
  • A clarification is made regarding air compressors, indicating that they use desiccants and operate on different principles than room air dehumidification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic principle of using condensation for humidity control, but there are differing views on the practicality and effectiveness of DIY solutions compared to commercial dehumidifiers. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to achieve significant humidity reduction.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the effectiveness of DIY methods and the energy requirements involved. There is also a lack of consensus on the best tools and methods for measuring humidity accurately.

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TL;DR
Controlling humidity with a simple condensation experiment.
Context:
Small living room,
Moderate amount of humidity if the room doesn't get ventilation but is cold outside.

Question:

If I use some object that can stay in a cold temperature enough to cause condensation (like having a cold beer sitting for a while) and remove the condensed liquid every a few minutes, would this work as a dehumidifier of sorts, reducing humidity on the room is set on?

If this does make sense I would love to do this as a fun house experiment and I wonder, how could I measure humidity in the room?

Thank you for reading this, I'm open to any recommendations and I can do some engineering level math and physics calculus if needed. Also, if this post doesn't belong in this section please let me know where to move it.
 
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Yud said:
Summary: Controlling humidity with a simple condensation experiment.

If I use some object that can stay in a cold temperature enough to cause condensation (like having a cold beer sitting for a while) and remove the condensed liquid every a few minutes, would this work as a dehumidifier of sorts, reducing humidity on the room is set on?

That's basically what a commercial dehumidifier does
 
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Oh perfect! Thank you!

So I can follow dehumidifier blueprints to create something similar and I just need to learn how to measure humidity in the air.
 
Measure humidity in the air with something like this:
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Found at Walmart and many other stores for about $15.00 US. Then use a psychrometric chart (search the term) to find the dew point (search that term also).
 
Yud said:
Oh perfect! Thank you!

So I can follow dehumidifier blueprints to create something similar and I just need to learn how to measure humidity in the air.
Dehumidifiers take a fair amount of energy (if you want to make a serious difference) the things you can buy that just sit there with absorbent blocks in them will not shift vast amounts of water. ~To make one, you need a refrigeration unit and fan. I have not come across a DIY version anywhere and I think it may be one of those 'it would be nice if' type projects. Perhaps look for a second hand one - checking that it actually produces water from its drain tube before you part with good money. :smile:
 
Yud said:
So I can follow dehumidifier blueprints to create something similar and I just need to learn how to measure humidity in the air.
Quick clarification: for air compressors they are usually called "driers" and it isn't quite the same as room air dehumidification. Usually they use desiccants. The principle at work is that the moisture carrying capacity of air drops as the pressure increases, so water almost literally gets "squeezed out".
 

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