Condensation of gas using bernoulli's principle

In summary, there is a possibility for gases, specifically butane, to condense when passing through a constriction in a pipe due to the drop in pressure caused by acceleration. This is a theoretical concept, but it is possible under appropriate conditions. This is similar to the phenomenon of carburetor icing in airplanes, where the drop in pressure can cause condensation and even freezing. In order to prevent this, airplanes have a carburetor heater to keep the venturi warm and avoid any potential issues during landing.
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bitman
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hi experts

This ought to be obvious but it sounds wrong.

If I have a pipe carrying butane at a constant flow rate at room temperature fed from a liquid gas bottle without a restrictor so that the gas is almost condensing, then have a constriction in the pipe to accelerate the gas, will the drop in pressure caused by acceleration cause the gas to condense ?

This is a purely theoretical question so no actual gases will be used. Just interested to see if gases can be condensed this way.

Many Thanks

bitman

Read an earlier thread on this forum re carburettor icing but it wasn't clear if this was the reason.
 
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bitman said:
If I have a pipe carrying butane at a constant flow rate at room temperature fed from a liquid gas bottle without a restrictor so that the gas is almost condensing, then have a constriction in the pipe to accelerate the gas, will the drop in pressure caused by acceleration cause the gas to condense ?

Yes. The constriction conserves total enthalpy. If the kinetic energy of the fluid goes up, its sensible enthalpy goes down. Condensation is certainly possible under appropriate conditions. Of course, coming of of the constriction, the velocity drops again, and the sensible enthalpy rises, so the condensate could evaporate again...

BBB
 
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For water around its triple point (I guess for any other such substances too), it can actually not only condense but freeze.

This is why in aeroplanes there is a 'carburettor heater' so that you can make sure the venturi is warm. As you come into land on closed throttle when the manifold pressure is low, the additional venturi pressure drop is enough to cause condensation and freezing. Not what you want just at landing, in case you need to go around, so you get a little lever to push up as you come in on finals to heat the carb.
 

1. What is Bernoulli's principle?

Bernoulli's principle is a physical law that states that as the speed of a fluid (such as gas or liquid) increases, its pressure decreases. This principle is based on the conservation of energy and is often used to explain the behavior of fluids in motion.

2. How does Bernoulli's principle apply to the condensation of gas?

In the context of condensation, Bernoulli's principle can help explain why gas molecules tend to condense into liquid droplets. As the gas molecules lose energy and slow down, their pressure increases, making them more likely to stick together and form a liquid.

3. Can Bernoulli's principle be used to predict the rate of gas condensation?

No, Bernoulli's principle alone cannot be used to predict the rate of gas condensation. Other factors, such as temperature, humidity, and the properties of the gas molecules, also play a role in the condensation process.

4. How is Bernoulli's principle related to the formation of clouds?

Bernoulli's principle is one of the factors that contribute to the formation of clouds. As warm, moist air rises and cools, its speed increases and its pressure decreases, causing water vapor to condense into droplets and form clouds.

5. Can variations in Bernoulli's principle affect the condensation of gas?

Yes, variations in Bernoulli's principle, such as changes in pressure or velocity, can affect the condensation of gas. For example, a decrease in pressure can cause gas molecules to condense more quickly, leading to the formation of fog or mist.

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