Conditional expectation (w/ transformation)

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The discussion focuses on calculating the conditional expectation E(Y|X) where X = U + V and Y = UV, with U and V being independent exponential random variables. The user is struggling to derive the joint distribution f(X,Y) and the conditional distribution f(Y|X) due to the complexity of the Jacobian resulting from the transformation of variables. The user has established that f(U,V) = λ² exp(-λ(u+v)) for u, v ≥ 0 but is uncertain if transformation is necessary for solving the problem.

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Any hints on how to solve for E(Y|X) given the ff:

Suppose U and V are independent with exponential distributions
[tex]f(t) = \lambda \exp^{-\lambda t}, \mbox{ for } t\geq 0[/tex]

Where X = U + V and Y = UV.

I am having difficulty finding f(Y|X)...
Also, solving for f(X,Y), I am also having difficulty transforming U and V to X and Y. I was able to define U and V to X and Y, but the terms are so complicated that its difficult to get the Jacobian.

So maybe, there's no need for transformation?

Help please. Thanks!
 
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ETA:
here's what I was able to get so far.

Since U and V are independent,
then f(U,V) = f(U)f(V)
thus
[tex]f(U,V) = \lambda^{2} \exp^{-\lambda (u+v)}, \mbox{ for } u\geq 0 v\geq 0[/tex]

To solve for E(Y|X), I would need to find f(Y|X)
[tex]f(Y|X) = \frac{f(X,Y)}{f(X)}[/tex]

to get f(X,Y), I need to transform U and V to X and Y.
thus
[tex]f(X,Y) = \lambda^{2} \exp^{-\lambda (x)} |J|[/tex]
where J is the jacobian.

my rpoblem is in solving for the Jacobian.

Since X = U+V
and Y =UV

then either
[tex]U = \frac{2Y}{X+ \sqrt{X^{2} - 4Y}}[/tex]
[tex]V = \frac{X+\sqrt{X^{2} - 4Y}}{2}[/tex]

or
[tex]U = \frac{2Y}{X- \sqrt{X^{2} - 4Y}}[/tex]
[tex]V = \frac{X-\sqrt{X^{2} - 4Y}}{2}[/tex]

problem is, getting the Jacobian of U and V would result in a very complicated and long expresion.

so I was thinking, maybe, I don't need to do the transformation. If not. What should I do?

Thanks
 

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