Conservation of energy, ball kicked into a canyon

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A ball is kicked from a 100.0 m canyon at a 30.0-degree angle with an initial velocity of 24.0 m/s, and the discussion focuses on determining its maximum height above the canyon floor. The conservation of energy equation is applied, where the initial kinetic and potential energy equals the final kinetic and potential energy at the peak height. Participants clarify that the vertical component of the velocity becomes zero at the maximum height, allowing for calculations using the vertical initial velocity. The vertical and horizontal components of the initial velocity are calculated to facilitate finding the peak height. The final height is determined by adding the calculated maximum height to the initial height of the canyon.
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Homework Statement


A ball is ikicked off a 100.0 m canyon at an angle of 30.0 degrees above the horizontal with a velocity of 24.0 m/s. What maximum height does it reach above the canyon floor?


Homework Equations


WNC = KE + PE


The Attempt at a Solution


WNC = 1/2mvf^2 - 1/2mvi^2 + mghf - mghi
1/2mvi^2 + mghi = 1/2mvf^2 + mghf

I'm not sure what to do with the 30.0 degree angle?
 
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lking226 said:
I'm not sure what to do with the 30.0 degree angle?

You can find the horizontal and vertical component of the initial speed of the ball
with the angle. When the ball is at its highest point, the vertical component will be 0.
 
lking226 said:

Homework Statement


A ball is ikicked off a 100.0 m canyon at an angle of 30.0 degrees above the horizontal with a velocity of 24.0 m/s. What maximum height does it reach above the canyon floor?


Homework Equations


WNC = KE + PE


The Attempt at a Solution


WNC = 1/2mvf^2 - 1/2mvi^2 + mghf - mghi
1/2mvi^2 + mghi = 1/2mvf^2 + mghf

I'm not sure what to do with the 30.0 degree angle?
You meant to say W_nc= delta KE + delta PE = 0, which is what you ended up with. When the ball reaches its max height, what is v_fy and what is v_fx?
 
okay so after i have vix = 20.785 and viy = 12, what do i do with those?
 
This is a projectile motion above a canyon. You've seem to have already found the vertical and horizontal components of the initial velocity so let's think about this some more.

In a projectile motion we're eventually going to reach a peak right?

Is there any specific property which notifies us that we've reached the peak of our projectile motion? (HINT: using the vertical/horizontal components of velcoity)
 
the velocity in the y direction will equal 0.
 
so i put that into the conservation of energy formula and solve for final height! thanks!
 
lking226 said:
so i put that into the conservation of energy formula and solve for final height! thanks!

I'm not entirely sure if that's correct. You told me above that the vertical component of its velocity will be 0 when it reaches its maximum height during its projectile motion. Calcuate this height and add it to the height of the ball initially above the canyon.

That will give you its maximum height.
 
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