Conservation of Energy Problem - Very Tricky

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The discussion revolves around a conservation of energy problem involving a cart on a track. The key equation derived is mgR = mgh + 1/2mv^2, leading to the expression for velocity just before the cart leaves the track, v^2 = 2g(R-h). It is noted that at the moment the cart leaves the track, the normal force equals zero, and only gravitational force acts on it afterward. The centripetal force equation is also referenced, emphasizing the need to consider the direction of centripetal acceleration when determining the angle at which the cart departs. The conversation highlights the importance of analyzing forces and energy conservation principles to solve for the angle.
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Homework Statement



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At what angle does the cart fly off of the track?

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Homework Equations



I know that energy is always conserved (total energy before = total energy afterwards).


The Attempt at a Solution



Equation for energy before = energy after:

mgR + Ek = mgh + 1/2mv^2
mgR = mgh + 1/2mv^2 (h is the height above the ground just before the cart leaves the track)

gR = gh + 1/2v^2

v^2 = 2g(R-h) --> This is the velocity just before the cart leaves the track



The dotted line that we see is equal to R.

Thus, Fc (centripetal force) = mv^2/R

If the cart were to leave the track, Fn (normal force) would equal 0

Where do I go from here? Am i on the right track?
 
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So far so good. At the point where the cart leaves the track, what are the forces acting on it? What can you say about its acceleration at that point?
 
After it leaves the track the only force acting on it is gravity. Would I do: mg = mv^2/R

g = v^2/R

R = v^2/g

Plug in v^2 = 2g(R-h)

R = 2g(R-h)/g

R = 2R - 2h

R = 2h

How do I find the angle then?
 
doug1 said:
After it leaves the track the only force acting on it is gravity.
Good.
Would I do: mg = mv^2/R
Almost. What direction is the centripetal acceleration at the point that it leaves the track? Consider forces along that axis.
 
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