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Consider an ideal case of a mass m1 moving at constant velocity v1 on a frictionless surface, colliding with another masss m2 at rest. After collision, can someone tell me if it is possible for m1 to move off at -v1 while conserving the momentum and energy of the entire system? This is quite a simple scenario depicted in many textbook but is this kind of collision physically possible at all, without m2 being infinitely large to absorb the momentum change?
Before the collision the linear momentum of the entire system is p1 = m1v1, and kinetic energy k1 = (p1)^2/2m1. But after the collision, m1 moved off with -p1 = -m1v1, carrying the same kinetic energy k1 as before. However due to conservation of linear momentum, m2must move in the opposite direction to m1 after collision with momentum of 2m1v1. Hence, m2 will carry with it the kinetic energy of 4k1*m1/m2. There is an energy surplus after collision just by conserving the linear momentum. Where does this energy come from? If this is not a physical possible collision (be it elastic or inelastic), why some of the textbooks keep depicting collision like this? Or is there any implicit assumption made without explicitely expressed? I even read similar depiction in one of the textbook talking about electromagnetic radiation pressure when shining on an object, talking about the momentum transfer but without mentioning about the energy change in the system.
Appreciate enlightenment. Thanks.
Before the collision the linear momentum of the entire system is p1 = m1v1, and kinetic energy k1 = (p1)^2/2m1. But after the collision, m1 moved off with -p1 = -m1v1, carrying the same kinetic energy k1 as before. However due to conservation of linear momentum, m2must move in the opposite direction to m1 after collision with momentum of 2m1v1. Hence, m2 will carry with it the kinetic energy of 4k1*m1/m2. There is an energy surplus after collision just by conserving the linear momentum. Where does this energy come from? If this is not a physical possible collision (be it elastic or inelastic), why some of the textbooks keep depicting collision like this? Or is there any implicit assumption made without explicitely expressed? I even read similar depiction in one of the textbook talking about electromagnetic radiation pressure when shining on an object, talking about the momentum transfer but without mentioning about the energy change in the system.
Appreciate enlightenment. Thanks.