Conservation of momentum and kinetic energy

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Two gliders, each weighing 0.3 kg, collide elastically on a frictionless track with an initial total kinetic energy of 0.52 J and total momentum of 0.12 kg m/s to the left. The user attempted to apply the conservation of momentum and energy equations to find the final velocities but encountered confusion in their calculations. They correctly set up the equations but struggled with the substitution process, leading to an incorrect conclusion about the relationship between the final velocities. Suggestions for resolving the issue included squaring the velocity equations for substitution or using the center-of-mass velocity approach to analyze relative velocities. Clarifying these concepts is essential for accurately determining the final velocities of the gliders.
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Homework Statement



Two 0.3 Kg gliders collide elastically on a frictionless track. Prior to the collision , their total kinetic energy is 0.52 J and their total momentum is 0.12 Kg m/s
along the track. Calculate the final velocities of the gliders.

Homework Equations


m1vi1 + m2vi2 = m1vf1 + m2vf2
1/2m1vi1^2 + 1/2m2vi2^2 = 1/2m1vf1^2 + 1/2m2vf2^2



The Attempt at a Solution



tried subbing into conservation of momentum equation, and the conservation of energy formula, then subbing 1 into 2 to find final velocities, but its not working. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong or if the solution i am using is correct?

m1vi1 + m2vi2 = m1vf1 + m2vf2
-0.12 = (0.3)vf1 + (0.3)vf2
-0.4 = vf1 + vf2
-0.4 - vf2 = vf1

1/2m1vi1^2 + 1/2m2vi2^2 = 1/2m1vf1^2 + 1/2m2vf2^2
0.52 = (0.3)(vf1)^2 + (0.3)(vf2)^2
√(0.52/0.3) = vf1 + vf2
1.32= vf1 + vf2

sub 1 into 2

1.32 = -0.4 - vf2 + vf2

This is where i am confused, because vf2-vf2 is obviously 0. I know somethings not right, and some assistance would be kindly appreciated :) The answers if needed are supposed to be 1.5 m/s
and 1.1 m/s
 
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line 3 in your KE paragraph: √a²+b² is NOT a+b .
you might square vf1 's formula , to plug into the KE line 2 ... eliminating it ... then solve for vf2.

otherwise, try subtracting the center-of-mass velocity, to get relative velocities. the relative velocity after collision is negative of the relative velocity before collision (since elastic; otherwise it is -e times vrel , with 0<e<1).
 
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