Continuous Functions, Closed Sets

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves showing that a specific set of continuous functions on the interval [0,1] is closed, using the concept of continuity in metric spaces. The set is defined by an integral condition related to the functions' values.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss defining a function based on an integral and exploring its continuity to establish the closed nature of the set. There are questions about the reasoning process and the handling of terms in the integral.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into using sequences to analyze the problem, suggesting that uniform convergence may simplify the continuity argument. Others are working through their understanding of the implications of their reasoning and the continuity of the defined function.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the need for clarity regarding the continuity of the integral function and the handling of bounds in the context of uniform convergence. Participants are also navigating the implications of their assumptions and the definitions involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement



A mapping f from a metric space X to another metric space Y is continuous if and only if f^{-1}(V) is closed (open) for every closed (open) V in Y.

Use this and the metric space (X,d), where X=C[0,1] (continuous functions on the interval [0,1]) with the metric d(f,g)=\sup _{x\in[0,1]}|f(x)-g(x)| to show that the set
A=\left\{f\in C[0,1]:\int_0^1 tf^2(t)dt\ge 3\right\}

is closed.

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None other than the theorem given.

The Attempt at a Solution



My first step is to define a function from C[0,1] to R by choosing the easiest function, F(f)=\int_0^1 tf^2(t)dt. If I can show that this is continuous, then it follows that \left\{f\in C[0,1]:\int_0^1 t f^2(t)dt\ge 3\right\} is closed since [3,\infty) is closed. That is, A is closed.

So, starting from the definition of a continuous function, I have:
|F(f)-F(g)|=\left|\int_0^1 t\left(f^2(t)-g^2(t)\right)\right|dt \le \int_0^1\left|t\left(f^2(t)-g^2(t)\right)\right|dt \le \int_0^1 |f^2(t)-g^2(t)|dt=\int_0^1 |f(t)-g(t)||f(t)+g(t)|dt
\le \int_0^1 d(f,g)|f(t)+g(t)|dt=d(f,g)\int_0^1 |f(t)+g(t)|dt<\epsilon.

My trouble is, I can't get rid of the last part of the integral that has |f+g| without restricting the domain of F. Any suggestions? Also, is my reasoning here fine? Thanks in advance!
 
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This may be easier to see using sequences. A useful thing to keep in mind is that convergence w.r.t. d is uniform convergence. Now, if f_n -> f uniformly, can we say that |f_n| -> |f| uniformly, too? How can this help us here? (Note: We also have that f_n+f -> 2f uniformly, since d(f_n+f,2f)=d(f_n,f)->0.)
 
Okay. Sorry if I seem slow here, but I'm trying to restate what you're saying so that I understand it.

Reinterpreting what I've written with a sequence instead of g, I have

<br /> |F(f)-F(f_n)|=\left|\int_0^1 t\left(f^2(t)-f_n^2(t)\right)\right|dt \le \int_0^1\left|t\left(f^2(t)-f_n^2(t)\right)\right|dt \le \int_0^1 |f^2(t)-f_n^2(t)|dt=\int_0^1 |f(t)-f_n(t)||f(t)+f_n(t)|dt<br />
<br /> \le \int_0^1 d(f,f_n)|f(t)+f_n(t)|dt=d(f,f_n)\int_0^1 |f(t)+f_n(t)|dt&lt;\epsilon<br />

Now, \int_0^1 |f(t)+f_n(t)| dt goes to a finite number, so I can pick \delta=\frac{\epsilon}{\int_0^1 |2(f)| dt}. Thus F is uniformly continuous (and hence continuous), and so I can apply the theorem. So A is closed.

This doesn't totally make sense to me, so if what I've done doesn't make sense then that's why.

Thanks again!
 
Since the sequence of real numbers \{\int_0^1 |f(t)+f_n(t)| dt\}_n converges, it's bounded by some M>0.

Hence, given \epsilon &gt; 0, we can find an N such that if n>N then d(f,f_n) &lt; \epsilon/M, and consequently, |F(f) - F(f_n)| \leq d(f,f_n) \cdot M &lt; \epsilon. In other words, F(f) -> F(f_n).
 
Okay, that makes more sense now. I see where you're pulling things from. Thank you!
 

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