Contraction of spring colliding with balls

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The discussion centers on calculating the maximum contraction of a spring when a 1kg ball is dropped into a 5kg box resting on a vertical spring with a spring constant of 100 N/m. The initial velocity of the ball upon impact is calculated to be 4.27 m/s, leading to a combined velocity after a plastic collision of approximately 0.7378 m/s. Energy conservation principles are applied to determine the spring's contraction, resulting in an initial calculation of 0.18 m, which, when adding the original contraction from the box's weight, totals 0.67 m. However, the book states the answer is 0.79 m, prompting a request for clarification on the energy equation used. The discussion emphasizes the need to review the energy conservation setup for potential errors in calculations.
devanlevin
on a vertical spring (k=100n/m) there is a box with a mass of 5kg, a ball of 1kg is dropped into it from a height of 1m what is the maximum contraction of the spring if the collosion is plastic.

i hope that my terminology is correct as i am not studying this in english and am translating

what i did was find the velcocity of the colision, ie the velocity of the ball after falling 1m, came to 4.27[m/s]

then using momentum and collision laws

m1v1+m2v2=(m1+m2)U

M1-the ball
M2-the box

m2v2=0(stationary object)

U=m1v1/(m1+m2)
U=(1*4.27)/6=0.7378[m/s]

then what i did was, using energy i said the energy is conserved from after the impact till the springs maximum contraction so:

E=0.5(m1+m2)U^2=0.5Kx^2
3*0.7378^2=50x^2

x=0.18m

then onto that i added another0.49m which is the original contraction from the weight of the box, and i get
x=0.67m

but the answer in the book is 0.79m and i just can't see how they got it
 
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Hello devinlevin!
I would agree with your attack until your energy equation:E=0.5(m1+m2)U^2=0.5Kx^2
3*0.7378^2=50x^2- specifically the left side.

First try setting up a general equation, not plugging in numbers and tell me what you get.
 
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