Control Board Power: Efficient Voltage Pull Off Large DC Bus

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the most efficient method to pull voltage from a large DC bus (230-400 volts) to power a control board. Participants explore various approaches, safety considerations, and the context of application, particularly in electric vehicles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the power board requirements and expresses concern over the dangers associated with high voltage.
  • Another participant suggests providing more detailed information to facilitate better responses.
  • A participant acknowledges the risks involved and outlines their intention to use simulation software before building components, aiming to step down the voltage to 12-13 volts for further regulation.
  • Options discussed include using an isolated flyback switching device or a power supply, with an emphasis on efficiency due to energy density concerns in electric vehicles.
  • One participant asks about the current requirements and mentions the availability of off-the-shelf power supply units (PSUs), recommending proper fusing and circuit protection.
  • Another participant suggests using a computer power supply, highlighting the need to ensure compatibility with the voltage and the removal of unnecessary components like power factor correction circuits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the best approach to efficiently step down the voltage, and there is no consensus on a single solution. Safety concerns and the need for detailed specifications are acknowledged but not resolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of efficiency and safety in their designs, but specific assumptions about current requirements and component compatibility remain unaddressed.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in power electronics, electric vehicle design, or those working with high-voltage DC systems may find this discussion relevant.

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what is the most efficient way to pull voltage off a large dc bus(230-400) to power a control board
 
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230-400 volts dc? yikes What's the power board requirements? You do know that this source could kill you?
 
I think people would get a better response if they explained a bit more.
 
Forgive me for being vague. I am very aware of the danger involved with working with this level of voltage. I intend to run whatever designs i have on a spice program before actually building the componenets. I am just trying to go from this large bus voltage down to about 12-13 volts that i can then run through another voltage regulator setup to get my final specific voltage and current. The difficult transistion for me is the initial stepdown. i have looked at isoated flyback switching device or a power supply of some sort. Just trying to be efficient with e power thta i have seeing as how in EV's efficeiency is everything due to the limited energy density of batteries. Another option i have though of is having a second battery setup to run the controller and secondary components, much like a car battery.
 
What current do you need?

Loads of off the shelf PSUs available .. linear of switched mode. Just make sure is it well fused as well as being fed through a breaker.
 
Is this for an electric vehicle? You can use a computer power supply, these take line voltage and rectify it to dc, so you can just remove the bridge rectifier and input power from the line side filter caps, just make sure the supply you use is suitable for your voltage, many will operate from 89 ac volts to 380 ac. Oh also, you want to remove any pfc circuits as well, as they will not be needed.
 

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