Control volume, steady- state and steady-flow devices, enthelpy

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The discussion focuses on calculating the power input required for compressing air from 120 kPa and 310 K to 700 kPa and 430 K, considering a heat loss of 20 kJ/kg. The first law of thermodynamics is applied, but there are concerns about the justification of the equations used, particularly regarding the conservation of enthalpy in non-constant pressure scenarios. Participants suggest revisiting the first law in terms of internal energy (U = Q - W) and consider the ideal gas behavior of air for simplification. The calculation presented yields a power input of 201 kW, but the accuracy is questioned based on the assumptions made. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying thermodynamic principles to solve the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement



Air is to be compressed from 120 kPa and 310 K to 700 kPa and 430 K. A heat loss of 20 kj/kg occurs during the compression process. For air: cv=0.7165 kj/kg.K and R=0.287 kj/kg.K .

A) Neglecting kinetic energy changes determine the power input required for a mass flow rate of 90 kg/min.


The Attempt at a Solution



m = 90 kg/min = 1.5kg/s

Apply 1st law of thermodynamics - energy conservation

Ein = Eout

Win + Mh1 = Qout + mh2

Therefore:

Win + mCpT1 = Qout + mCpT2

Cp = 1.005 Kj/Kg.K

Win + 1.5kg X 1.005 KJ/Kg.K X 310K = 20KJ/Kg/K + 1.5Kg/s X 1.005 KJ/Kg.K X 430K=

Win = 201Kw.


Is this correct?
 
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Aeronautical1 said:
1. Apply 1st law of thermodynamics - energy conservation

Ein = Eout

Win + Mh1 = Qout + mh2

?


What is your justification for this equation? It's not the 1st law. Enthalpy equals heat only at constant pressure, which is not the case here. Or, the other way, enthalpy is not conserved since this is not a throttling process.

How about going back to the real 1st law? U = Q - W

Hint: if the air can be considerd an ideal gas, this problem is trivial. If not, I'm not sure myself how to tackle it at the moment.
 
If air is to be considered and ideal gas here, how would i go about the problem with that in mind?
 
Like I said, start with the first law. What are the changes in U and Q?
 
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