Coordinate systems in the solar system?

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The discussion focuses on the lack of a specific coordinate system that describes a planet's position in its orbit, particularly from an Earth-centered perspective. Users express interest in locating planets like Mars in the sky, noting that traditional celestial coordinate systems typically fix the background stars rather than the sun. Recommendations for finding current celestial coordinates include using planetarium software like Starry Night and resources such as the International Celestial Reference Frame (ICRF) and the Horizons system from JPL. The conversation highlights the need for accessible tools to determine the positions of celestial objects. Overall, users seek clarity on how to effectively track and reference planetary positions.
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I have read the wikipedia page regarding Celestial coordinate systems and searched on google, but I cannot find any coordinate systems which describe a planet's position in it's orbit. Does there exist such a system?

An example use of this system would be in locating the planets in the sky. I know that Mars is near opposition now, so I would expect that Mars' coordinates in such a system to be whatever Earth's position is +~180°.
 
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That's an Earth centered coordinate system, not a sun centered coordinate system. And it isn't how it typically works. The normal one uses the holds the background of stars fixed. It uses right ascention and declination. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_coordinate_system

What you suggest would hold the sun fixed. I guess something based on time would qualify, as the sun is due south at noon (therefore, Mars is due south at midnight right now).
 
I did read that wikipedia article. But where can these coordinates for celestial objects be found, then? What is Mars' value at the moment, and where could I have looked that up myself?

Thanks.
 
Any decent planetarium program will give you the coordinates of an object. I use Starry Night.

At this moment, Mars is at:
RA: 8:39
Dec: 23 degrees 3'
 
dotancohen said:
I did read that wikipedia article. But where can these coordinates for celestial objects be found, then? What is Mars' value at the moment, and where could I have looked that up myself?
You might also want to read up on the International Celestial Reference Frame (ICRF, see http://rorf.usno.navy.mil/ICRF ) and Standards of Fundamental Astronomy (SOFA, see http://www.iausofa.org/index.html).

As for coordinates for various bodies, the Horizons system at JPL is a very good reference. See http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/?horizons.
 
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