Could a Gaussian beam be described as parallel at a large distance?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a Gaussian beam at large distances, specifically whether it can be approximated as parallel light when received by a finite detection area. The conversation includes theoretical considerations and potential applications in optics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a mathematical model of a Gaussian beam and suggests that at distances much greater than the Rayleigh distance, the curvature of the wavefront approaches zero, allowing for the approximation of parallel light.
  • Another participant notes that in radio wave propagation beyond the Rayleigh distance, it is typically assumed that phase error due to curvature is negligible, although all beams diverge.
  • A third participant expresses uncertainty about the concept of phase error and seeks clarification, indicating a lack of familiarity with its implications in optics.
  • One participant discusses the relationship between transmitter power, received power, and electric field strength, suggesting that knowledge of the transmitter power or the electric field amplitude can help in calculations related to the beam's behavior.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of approximating the Gaussian beam as parallel light at large distances. There are differing views on the significance of phase error and the implications of using a waist diameter in the analysis.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the assumptions made in the approximation of the beam as parallel light, as well as the definitions and implications of phase error in the context of optics.

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Hello, there. Suppose a Gaussian beam is sent and is received at a great large distance, i.e., the propagation distance ##z \gg z_R## the Rayleigh distance.

The Gaussian beam can be described by $$E_0 \frac {1}{w(z)} \exp \left ( \frac {-r^2}{w(z)^2}\right )\exp\left ( -i\left (kz+k\frac {r^2}{2R(z)}-\psi(z)\right )\right ) $$
where ##E_0## is the amplitude of the electric field, ##w_0## is the waist radius, ##w(z)## is the radius of the beam at ##z##, ##k## is the frequency, ##R(z)## is the radius of curvature of the beam's wavefronts at ##z##, and ##\psi(z)## is the Gouy phase.

When the distance ##z## is larger than the Rayleigh distance ##z_R##, the beam will diverge noticeably. In my scenario, the propagation distance ##z## is so large that the curvature of the wavefront will approach zero. In order to simplify my analysis, I would like to treat them as parallel light when received by a finite small detection area. And since the other part that is not detected is lost, I modeled the light to be as a beam with a waist radius ##w_d##, which is the radius of the detection area, such as $$E_d \frac {1}{w_d} \exp \left ( \frac {-r^2}{w_d^2}\right )\exp\left ( -ikz \right ) $$ where ## E_d## is the received amplitude, the curvature term vanishes and the Gouy phase can be harmlessly removed.

But my professor said that he is not sure whether this approximation is correct or not and asked me to find more related papers. However, I have searched in Google scholar for days without success. Could you help me with this analysis or share possible materials? Thanks in advance.
 
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In radio wave propagation beyond the Rayleigh Distance, we normally assume that phase error due to curvature is zero. Of course, all beams will diverge beyond the Rayleigh Distance.
 
Hi, @tech99. Thanks for your reply. I am not familiar with the concept of phase error. On some websites, it reads that phase err (phase error) is the phase difference between the I/Q reference signal and the I/Q measured signal, averaged over all symbol points. But this seems not to be related to optics. Could you refer me to some materials? Thanks!
 
I was just considering the phase error across a curved wavefront, which is negligible.
Not sure about the concept of using a waist diameter wd.
If you know the transmitter power, Pt, then received power Pr = Pt x detector area/beam area at distance z.
Received electric field strength = sqrt (377 x Pr)
If you don't know transmitter power but know Eo then you can find it from: Pt = waist area x Eo^2/377
 
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