Could a Personal Helicopter Backpack Revolutionize Personal Transit?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of a personal helicopter backpack designed for individual transit. Participants explore the technical, practical, and safety implications of such a device, considering its potential impact on personal transportation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a backpack with retractable helicopter blades that could lift a person, questioning the availability of a sufficiently powerful yet lightweight engine.
  • Another participant raises concerns about counter-torque, suggesting that two counter-rotating rotor blades would be necessary, complicating the design and increasing weight.
  • Weight considerations are discussed, with some participants suggesting that while engines with a high power-to-weight ratio might exist, they may not be light enough for practical daily use.
  • Practicality is questioned, with one participant expressing concern about the safety of having untrained individuals flying in urban areas.
  • A reference is made to previous attempts at similar technology, noting that existing designs have not achieved the compactness required for personal use.
  • Concerns about the weight of fuel and the heat generated by engines are highlighted, suggesting that these factors could negate the advantages of a small design.
  • Complexity of rotary wing controls is mentioned, with doubts about the feasibility of making them compact enough for a backpack design.
  • A humorous remark is made regarding the potential dangers of having helicopter blades close to the head.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of curiosity and skepticism regarding the concept. While some acknowledge the innovative idea, multiple competing views on its practicality and safety remain unresolved.

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Limitations include uncertainties about the power-to-weight ratios of potential engines, the implications of fuel weight, and the complexity of necessary controls, which have not been fully explored or resolved in the discussion.

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This idea came to me in a most peculiar dream, and I was wondering if it would be possible:

Basically, it would be a backpack that you strap on with arms that come down (like a car seat) with controls at the ends. You start up the little engine in the backpack and mini helicopter blades extend up and outwards, just powerful enough to lift yourself and the engine. The retractable blades would mean you wouldn't have to tie up the contraption like a bike when entering buildings.

Is there an engine that could be powerful enough to do this (yet light enough to carry around?) If so, it could have tremendous implications for personal transit.
 
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There are a few problems with this idea.

1.) Counter-torque - in order to keep the passenger from spinning opposite the rotor, the machine would need two counter-rotating sets of rotorblades. The gearing to do this would make the vehicle bulkier and heavier (thus being less practical and requiring a larger engine)

2.) Weight - without doing a product survey, I'm going to say that there are engines with a high enough power-to-weight ratio to accomplish this, however I don't know if they'd be "light" enough to carry around all day (as you seem to indicate in your idea).

3.) Practicality - in reality, would you want any yay-hoo who could aford it flying overhead? Personally, I wouldn't. There are some people I don't even think should have DRIVER's licenses.

A good idea, but one that has already been thought of and deemed impractical. Nonetheless, keep up the brainstorming.

Cheers...
 
Thought you might find this to be of some interest.
 
To an extent, it has been attempted, just not in the small scale you are referring.

http://www.richguy.com/luxury/lifestyle/magazine.php?car=AIR&id=SoloTrek+XFV&aid=55&page=1

The company's website is defunct as much as I can tell, so I have a feeling that they have lost funding for it.

The big issues I see are the following:

1) Engines: Reciprocating engines are not so good when it comes to power to weight ratio. They are heavy for the amount of power they put out. That is why most helicopters today use turboshaft turbines.

2) Fuel. Fuel is heavy. You'd probably loose any lifting advantages by going small when you add the weight of the fuel.

3) Heat/safety. Engines are heat producers. I don't think you'd want something that hot on your back with just a backpack in between you.

4) Complexity. Rotary wing controls are very intricate and complicated. I don't see how you'd be able to make the connecting components small enough and compact to be able to make it so a person could carry it. Plus, like Lunchbox mentioned, you would have to have tandem rotors to alleviate counter torque issues.
 
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sounds like a great way to get a marine haircut from the neck up.
No... can't say I would like a blade whoop whooping just above the old grey matter.
 
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