Covariant Derivatives (1st, 2nd) of a Scalar Field

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The discussion centers on the covariant derivative of a covariant derivative of a scalar field, specifically addressing the equation $$\nabla_A X^{AB} = 0$$ where $$X^{AB} = \nabla^A \phi \nabla^B \phi - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \nabla_C \phi \nabla^C \phi$$. Participants clarify that the covariant derivative of a scalar field is not generally zero and involves the Christoffel symbols. The Energy-Momentum tensor, represented by $$X^{AB}$$, has a covariant derivative of zero under specific conditions, which was a point of confusion for the original poster.

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Homework Statement


Suppose we have a covariant derivative of covariant derivative of a scalar field. My lecturer said that it should be equal to zero. but I seem to not get it

Homework Equations


Suppose we have
$$X^{AB} = \nabla^A \phi \nabla^B \phi - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \nabla_C \phi \nabla^C \phi $$
it should be proven that
$$\nabla_A \: X^{AB} =0$$
with ##\phi## is a scalar field

The Attempt at a Solution



Naturally, we would expand the equations.
\begin{align}\nabla_A \: X^{AB} &= \nabla_A \left[ \nabla^A \phi \nabla^B \phi - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \nabla_C \phi \nabla^C \phi \right] \\
&= \nabla^B \phi \left[ \nabla_A \nabla^A \phi \right] + \nabla^A \phi \left[ \nabla_A \nabla^B \phi \right] - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \nabla_C \phi \left[\nabla_A \nabla^C \phi\right] - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \nabla^C \phi \left[\nabla_A \nabla_C \phi\right]
\end{align}

We know that the covariant derivative of a scalar is its partial derivative ## \nabla_A \phi = \partial_A \phi##

\begin{align}\nabla_A \: X^{AB} &= \partial^B \phi \left[ \nabla_A \partial^A \phi \right] + \partial^A \phi \left[ \nabla_A \partial^B \phi \right] - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \partial_C \phi \left[\nabla_A \partial^C \phi\right] - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \partial^C \phi \left[\nabla_A \partial_C \phi\right]
\end{align}

Now the 2nd Cov. Der. would depends on the christoffel symbol where
\begin{align}
\nabla_A \partial_B \phi &= \partial_A \partial_B \phi - \partial_C \phi \Gamma_{AB}^C \\
\nabla_A \partial^B \phi &= \partial_A \partial^B \phi + \partial^C \phi \Gamma_{AC}^B
\end{align}

so that
\begin{align}\nabla_A \: X^{AB} &= \partial^B \phi \left[ \partial_A \partial^A \phi + \partial^C \phi \Gamma_{AC}^A \right] + \partial^A \phi \left[ \partial_A \partial^B \phi + \partial^C \phi \Gamma_{AC}^B \right] \\
\nonumber
& - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \partial_C \phi \left[\partial_A \partial^C \phi + \partial^D \phi \Gamma_{AD}^C\right] - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \partial^C \phi \left[\partial_A \partial_C \phi - \partial_D \phi \Gamma_{AC}^D\right]
\end{align}

Now I'm stuck as to where should I go? How could t be proven that last (and quite long) equation be equal to zero?
Any help would be much appreciated
Thanks in advance
 
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rezkyputra said:
Suppose we have a covariant derivative of covariant derivative of a scalar field. My lecturer said that it should be equal to zero.
That doesn't sound correct to me. IIRC the covariant derivative of the covariant derivative of scalar field ##\phi## is a ##\pmatrix{0\\2}## tensor whose ##(\alpha,\beta)## element is
$$\phi_{;\alpha\beta}=\partial_\beta\partial_\alpha\phi-\Gamma^\mu_{\alpha\beta}(\partial_\mu\phi)$$
which is not in general zero.
 
andrewkirk said:
That doesn't sound correct to me. IIRC the covariant derivative of the covariant derivative of scalar field ##\phi## is a ##\pmatrix{0\\2}## tensor whose ##(\alpha,\beta)## element is
$$\phi_{;\alpha\beta}=\partial_\beta\partial_\alpha\phi-\Gamma^\mu_{\alpha\beta}(\partial_\mu\phi)$$
which is not in general zero.

All in all, said tensor ##X^{AB}## in my post was actually an Energy momentum tensor, which should have a covariant derivative of zero ##\nabla_A X^{AB} = \nabla_A T^{AB} = 0 ##

or is there a special case where that would be zero?
 
rezkyputra said:

Homework Statement


Suppose we have a covariant derivative of covariant derivative of a scalar field. My lecturer said that it should be equal to zero. but I seem to not get it

Homework Equations


Suppose we have
$$X^{AB} = \nabla^A \phi \nabla^B \phi - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \nabla_C \phi \nabla^C \phi $$
it should be proven that
$$\nabla_A \: X^{AB} =0$$
with ##\phi## is a scalar field

The Attempt at a Solution



Naturally, we would expand the equations.
\begin{align}\nabla_A \: X^{AB} &= \nabla_A \left[ \nabla^A \phi \nabla^B \phi - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \nabla_C \phi \nabla^C \phi \right] \\
&= \nabla^B \phi \left[ \nabla_A \nabla^A \phi \right] + \nabla^A \phi \left[ \nabla_A \nabla^B \phi \right] - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \nabla_C \phi \left[\nabla_A \nabla^C \phi\right] - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \nabla^C \phi \left[\nabla_A \nabla_C \phi\right]
\end{align}

We know that the covariant derivative of a scalar is its partial derivative ## \nabla_A \phi = \partial_A \phi##

\begin{align}\nabla_A \: X^{AB} &= \partial^B \phi \left[ \nabla_A \partial^A \phi \right] + \partial^A \phi \left[ \nabla_A \partial^B \phi \right] - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \partial_C \phi \left[\nabla_A \partial^C \phi\right] - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \partial^C \phi \left[\nabla_A \partial_C \phi\right]
\end{align}

Now the 2nd Cov. Der. would depends on the christoffel symbol where
\begin{align}
\nabla_A \partial_B \phi &= \partial_A \partial_B \phi - \partial_C \phi \Gamma_{AB}^C \\
\nabla_A \partial^B \phi &= \partial_A \partial^B \phi + \partial^C \phi \Gamma_{AC}^B
\end{align}

so that
\begin{align}\nabla_A \: X^{AB} &= \partial^B \phi \left[ \partial_A \partial^A \phi + \partial^C \phi \Gamma_{AC}^A \right] + \partial^A \phi \left[ \partial_A \partial^B \phi + \partial^C \phi \Gamma_{AC}^B \right] \\
\nonumber
& - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \partial_C \phi \left[\partial_A \partial^C \phi + \partial^D \phi \Gamma_{AD}^C\right] - \frac{1}{2} g^{AB} \partial^C \phi \left[\partial_A \partial_C \phi - \partial_D \phi \Gamma_{AC}^D\right]
\end{align}

Now I'm stuck as to where should I go? How could t be proven that last (and quite long) equation be equal to zero?
Any help would be much appreciated
Thanks in advance
You have forgotten to apply the covariant derivative to the metric g^{AB}.
 

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