Create a bootable USB for Windows?

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The discussion revolves around creating a bootable USB drive for installing Windows 10 Education on a desktop computer that currently runs Linux. Participants explore various methods and considerations for preparing the USB drive, as well as the implications of dual-booting with Linux.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on using Boot Camp Assistant on a Mac to create a bootable USB for Windows, questioning its applicability for Intel-based devices.
  • Another participant suggests that installing Windows first may lead to confusion regarding drive letters, as Windows might assign a different drive letter to the installation drive.
  • There are concerns about the Linux bootloader needing repair after installing Windows, with one participant recalling a past experience of Windows taking over the boot sector.
  • Some participants propose changing the boot order in BIOS to switch between operating systems without needing to dual-boot.
  • There is a discussion about the potential slowness of installing Windows on a USB drive due to its size, with a suggestion that Linux might be a better candidate for USB installation.
  • One participant expresses concern about the risk of losing their Linux setup when booting Windows from a USB on a separate hard drive.
  • Another participant advises unplugging the Linux drive during the Windows installation to avoid any conflicts.
  • Multiple participants mention software options like Rufus and UNetbootin for creating bootable USB drives, with clarifications about their compatibility with Mac systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of methods and opinions on how to create a bootable USB and manage dual-booting. There is no consensus on a single best approach, and several competing views remain regarding the installation process and software tools.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential risks associated with installing Windows alongside Linux, including the need to repair the bootloader and the possibility of drive letter confusion. There are also mentions of software limitations and compatibility issues with Mac systems.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for users looking to install Windows on a system that currently runs Linux, particularly those using Mac hardware and seeking to create a bootable USB drive.

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Hi PF!

I am currently on an Intel-based mac. I have an AMD desktop currently running linux on one SSD, but this desktop also has an HDD, which I'd like to boot with Windows 10 Education (since it's free for my school).

How can I prepare a USB bootable drive so that I can use the HDD for Windows? I found a link that suggested using "Boot Camp Assistant" on mac, but its description says it helps install Windows for Intel-based devices.

Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
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rbelli1 said:
The easiest way seems to be to install windows first.
I'm installing Windows on its own HDD, so wouldn't it be it's first drive?
 
You can move the Linux disk to the second (or later) port and put the Windows one on the first port. This is optional. You will have to repair the Linux boot-loader in either case.

Windows will put its boot-loader on the boot drive and install itself wherever you tell it to. I have seen the resulting system consider the boot drive "c:" and the windows install drive something else. I had this happen to me about 20 years ago on a Windows 2000 system so the details are a bit fuzzy. The system worked normally even though c: was empty except for the swapfile.

This may be different in newer Windows versions. I haven't had need to install on anything other than the first drive since then. The fact that windows will not be able to interpret the file system on the Linux drive will make things even weirder. Windows should be able to sort itself out regardless.

Then you need to follow the link in the pcworld article to repair your bootloader. Make sure to build the appropriate repair CD/USB stick before installing Windows.

BoB
 
Or you could just change the boot order of your disks and just pop into the Bios Boot menu and choose the alternate drive whenever you want to boot into the alternate OS.

Installing Windows 10 onto a USB will be very slow due to it's size, if you want to go down this route you are better off installing Linux onto the USB drive.
 
That's virtualising the Linux install. There are numerous virtualisation programs out there that will let you emulate another OS inside Windows.
 
MikeeMiracle said:
Or you could just change the boot order of your disks and just pop into the Bios Boot menu and choose the alternate drive whenever you want to boot into the alternate OS.
Yes, this is exactly what I want to do.

MikeeMiracle said:
Installing Windows 10 onto a USB will be very slow due to it's size, if you want to go down this route you are better off installing Linux onto the USB drive.
Yea, I had Linux on the USB, but I have a lot of programs on Linux now and I can't risk uninstalling Linux and wiping it. Is there any risk losing my Linux build if I boot Windows from a USB onto a completely separate hard drive?
 
Can't you just unplug the linux drive during the install and then adjust the boot order (in bios) to find the appropriate drive first when you plug it back?
 
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Windows Install looks on ALL connected drives during installation. At least earlier versions were very possesive and would, under some conditions, disable/wipe-out other OS's and/or other versions of windows. It absolutely takes over the boot sector on the disk, that's why the universal recommendation to install Windows first when you want an additional OS.

Be safe. Unless doing a Windows 'Upgrade' install, unplug other drives.

Cheers,
Tom
 
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Thanks for the help everyone! I successfully installed windows and unplugged the SSD while doing so! Thanks for the tip!
 
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As far as i know,a software called Refus is able to make a bootable USB for Windows.but you are working on Mac,i don't know if it work for Mac.
 
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samy65 said:
As far as i know,a software called Refus is able to make a bootable USB for Windows.but you are working on Mac,i don't know if it work for Mac.
Rufus doesn't support Mac,next this tool i will talk about can make a bootable USB on Mac,this is a recommendation from an experienced friend.
 
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samy65 said:
Rufus doesn't support Mac,next this tool i will talk about can make a bootable USB on Mac,this is a recommendation from an experienced friend.
I didn't see that @joshmccraney said anything about a Mac, but either way, the UUByte product that your link leads to is a good product, but only a trial version is available free ##-## UNetbootin (from https://habitlab.stanford.edu/) will do the job and is available for free download in Windows and Mac versions here: https://unetbootin.github.io/
 

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