Creating Electricity: Can Magnets & Capacitors Create More Power?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using magnets and capacitors to create additional electrical energy, specifically whether a setup involving multiple capacitors can generate more electricity than initially supplied. The scope includes theoretical considerations of energy generation and conservation principles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a generator design using magnets and capacitors, questioning if this could yield more electricity for a second capacitor.
  • Another participant asserts that energy cannot be created or destroyed, referencing the law of conservation of energy to argue against the possibility of generating more power than input.
  • A different participant clarifies that the phrase "a wire coiled around another wire" suggests a twisted pair cable, which does not increase electricity output beyond the input.
  • It is noted that the energy generated and stored is contingent on the physical energy input to the moving magnets, reinforcing the idea that output cannot exceed input.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the principle of energy conservation, asserting that more energy cannot be created than is supplied. However, the initial proposal about the generator setup remains contested, with differing interpretations of its feasibility.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the technical details of the proposed generator design, nor does it clarify the assumptions about energy input and output mechanisms.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring concepts in electromagnetism, energy conservation, and electrical engineering principles.

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Suppose you made a generator by connecting several magnets pushing currents through wires into a capacitor. Now suppose you connected this capacitor to another capacitor by a wire coiled around another wire both connected to the next capacitor. Could this work in creating more electricity for the second capacitor?
 
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BobbaD said:
Could this work in creating more electricity for the second capacitor?
I am not perfectly sure what you are asking, but if you ask if there can be more electrical energy or power than before, the answer is no; it is very, very well known that energy can't be created nor destroyed due to the law of conservation of energy.
 
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"A wire coiled around another wire" sounds like a twisted pair cable. It does not create more electricity than is put into it.

Magnets do not "push currents through wires", the relative movement of a conductor and a magnetic field will generate an electromotive force (emf).

Learning the basic principles of electricity and magnetism can be done from books or reputable websites, such as:
https://www.shmoop.com/electricity-magnetism/
 
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BobbaD said:
Could this work in creating more electricity for the second capacitor?
The amount of energy generated and stored depends on the physical energy input to the moving magnets (generator). You cannot get more energy out than you put in.
 

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