Creating my own wireless communication system

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of a freshman electrical engineering student creating a wireless communication system to transmit short binary strings across a classroom. Participants explore various methods, including radio frequency (RF) and optical frequencies, while considering the complexity and requirements of such a project.

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses doubt about the feasibility of the project, suggesting that building a wireless communication system from scratch is too complex for a beginner and recommending purchasing components instead.
  • Another participant counters that RF is not the only option and suggests using optical frequencies, highlighting the availability of infrared and visible light components for transmitting binary strings.
  • Some participants mention that while RF communication is complex, simpler methods like using FM transmitter kits or Bluetooth/Wi-Fi modules could be appropriate for a first-year EE student.
  • There is a discussion about the definition of "creating a wireless communication system," with some arguing that it does not necessarily mean building everything from scratch.
  • One participant emphasizes the significant learning curve associated with RF technology, suggesting it requires years of study.
  • Another participant points out that using a TV remote as an example illustrates the concept of wireless transmission using infrared pulses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the complexity of the project, with some believing it is feasible with certain components while others argue it is too advanced for a beginner. There is no consensus on the best approach or method to achieve the goal.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various technologies and components without resolving the specific requirements or assumptions needed for the project. The discussion includes a range of perspectives on the necessary complexity and the definition of "creating" a wireless communication system.

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I don't have much experience in EE, but for a project, I was wondering if I could create a device that can wirelessly transmit short binary strings from one end of a classroom to another. Would it be a feasible project for a freshman student of electrical engineering?

BiP
 
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Wooah. Hello there..

The straight answer would be - No. It's too complex.

But since I know that if I were you, I would probably not be satisfied with that answer, and demand an instruction so I could choose myself :D

Well first of all, the things you would need is

Antenna, Transceiver, Microprocessor - Not very complex eh?

The problem is, it would be very difficult to build all of this yourself. You would probably end up buying all of them, and then just programming the Microprocessor.

The Antenna would have to be designed for the specific frequency range you would want to transmit on. There are some simple antenna designs, like the inverted F antenna you could look up on. But my advice would be to buy the antenna from farnell.com or perhaps RS components.

The transceiver is a complex piece of hardware. It's purpose is to translate the signals in the air into a bitstream. Also, it will have to translate a bitstream into a signal.

The way it does this is by digital demodulation and digital modulation. If you want you can look up on ASK Modulation (Amplitude Shift Keying), which would be one of the ways to do it.

So the Transceiver spits out a bitstream. This bitstream would then be received by your Microprocessor which can then decode the message depending on how you have decided to arrange the bits in a protocol.

But I would recommend that you buy all of the stuff and then program the Microcontroller. For learning purposes, you could look into the modulation schemes, but I really think it will be problematic, if you haven't learned about Fourier transformations yet.
 
Bipolarity,

Please do not be discouraged by the above pessimistic post. Remember that Radio Frequency (RF) energy is not the only means we can use to send short binary strings from one end of a classroom to another. Consider using Optical Frequencies. There are many infrared and visible light emitting diodes available to transmit pulses. For receiving those pulses there are entire families of phototransistors and photodiodes. Additionally, there is a wide variety of receiver and transmitter simple circuits available for free. After a few minutes of searching I found these possibilities you can consider:

http://www.freshpatents.com/Optical-transmitter-and-optical-receiver-dt20061207ptan20060275041.php
http://www.google.com/patents/US7650082
http://www.explorecircuits.com/index.php/component/content/article/68.html
www.ece.ucsb.edu/…asses/ece2c/labs/Lab4_2C_2009.pdf

Let us know here on Physics Forums how your project goes.

Cheers,
Bobbywhy
 
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You won't achieve it by radio: far too difficult for a beginner.
Infrared maybe.
 
It wasn't being pessimistic. My thoughts were in the RF direction, and that is a complex area. Of course anything is possible if you want to buy everything, but if he wants to build it all from scratch then it requires a bit more than being a beginner. Its simply being realistic.
 
Emphasize. RF needs several years of uncompressible learning time for a gifted person.
 
I do not think this would really be that complex - unless you mean to build 100% from scratch and understanding every component, and it is anywhere on par with modern equiment - I guess it is the "create a device" that needs more clarification.

A simple Morse code type tone fed into an FM transmitter kit - and revived by a FM radio will do this - or if this is part of a larger project and you want to build a device from sub-functional parts to do this there are bluetooth and wifi kits as well. -- that seems appropriate for 1st year EE -

These can technically do what you are asking - again you do not mention how you are going to generate the sting ( Manually, Serial, some other source).
 
The OP said "create a wirelesss communication system".

IMO that's not the same as "build a radio transmitter and reciever" (and for extra credit make your own cat's whiskers instead of buying semiconductors).
 
Bipolarity said:
I don't have much experience in EE, but for a project, I was wondering if I could create a device that can wirelessly transmit short binary strings from one end of a classroom to another. Would it be a feasible project for a freshman student of electrical engineering?

BiP

When you hold your TV remote control in your hand and push one of the buttons you are "wirelessly transmit(ing) short binary strings from one end of a classroom (living room)to another" by means of infrared pulses.
 

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