Crimp vs Compression: Which Hose Fitting is Best for Your Needs?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differences between crimp and compression hose fittings, including their advantages and disadvantages. Participants explore the contexts in which flare and flareless fittings are preferable, touching on practical applications and personal experiences with these fittings.

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Main Points Raised

  • Ana seeks clarification on the definitions of crimp and compression crimp hose fittings, as well as the advantages and disadvantages of flare and flareless fittings.
  • One participant notes a lack of awareness regarding the difference between 'crimp' and 'compression crimp', suggesting that the pressure rating may depend on the crimping method used.
  • Another participant argues that flared fittings act as their own gaskets, making them easier to seal under high pressure, and mentions no significant disadvantages to using flares.
  • A participant describes compression fittings as using a ferrule that bites into the tube, highlighting that they require no special end treatment but can lead to leaks in outdoor applications.
  • This participant expresses a preference for 37-degree flared fittings due to better leak prevention over time and fluctuating pressures, while also noting the need for a flaring tool and specific techniques for effective use.
  • Another participant acknowledges their use of compression fittings without knowing their specific name, indicating a personal experience with them.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the effectiveness and practicality of crimp versus compression fittings, with no consensus reached on which is definitively better. There are multiple competing views regarding the advantages of flared versus flareless fittings.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific applications and personal experiences, which may not generalize across all scenarios. There are references to installation techniques and material considerations that could influence performance but remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Hi,

Please explain ..

What is Crimp amd compression crimp hose fittings?
What are the advantages and disadvantages of flare and flareless fitting?When to go for flare and flareless fittings?

Thanks
Ana
 
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Hi.
I wasn't aware of a difference between 'crimp' and 'compression crimp', other than possibly the materials involved. My experience is limited to having had a couple of custom hoses made up at the local shop. The pressure rating might depend upon how the crimp is created.
Flares act as their own gaskets, so it's easier to seal a high-pressure joint with flared couplers (as evidenced by brake-line fittings). I can't see any disadvantage to using flares, other than the couple of seconds that it takes to create one. You'd have to be pretty desperate for that to dissuade you. The advantage to them over a regular fitting is that line pressure actually helps them to seal by forcing them into the receiver tighter. That isolates the joint itself from the pressure that might otherwise back out between the tube and the collar.
 
A compression fitting uses a ferrule that bites into the tube. The one big advantage is that there is no special end treatment required to prepare the tube. The installation is a permanent one because once the nut is locked down and the compression fitting sinched in, the ferrule will need to be cut off the tube. The installation is pretty easy to do, but a lot of people don't know the proper methodology. I personally have had leak issues using them in outdoor situations. Swagelok fittings are a very widely used brand of compression fittings and valves. Many places insist on using these fittings.

Personally, I prefer 37 degree flared fittings. I have had better luck with them in leak prevention, especially over long time periods and systems that fluctuate its pressure over wide range. The fittings are a bit less expensive as well. They do require a flaring tool and a bit of talent to make a burr free flare. Some tubing does not flare very well too. Therefore you need to know some special tricks to make them work well (like putting some oil on the flaring tool).
 
Thanks for the clarification, Fred. I've used compression fittings (on my engine oil gauge, for instance), but didn't know what they were called.
 

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