Cross product evaluation (for the Lorentz Force).

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Let's say we have:

[tex]\vec{E}=E_x\vec{i}_x+E_y\vec{i}_y+E_z\vec{i}_z[/tex]

and

[tex]\vec{B}=B_x\vec{i}_x+B_y\vec{i}_y+B_z\vec{i}_z[/tex]

and the Lorentz Force

[tex]0=q(\vec{E}+\vec{v}X\vec{B})[/tex]

which due to

[tex]\vec{E}X\vec{B}=\vec{B}X(\vec{v}X\vec{B})=vB^2-B(\vec{v}\cdot \vec{B})[/tex]

and transverse components only, gives

[tex]v_{gc}=\frac{\vec{E}X\vec{B}}{B^2}[/tex]

where Vgc is the guiding center drift of the charged particles in a magnetic field with an electric field.

My question now is how to calculate

[tex]\vec{C}=\vec{E}X\vec{B}[/tex]

I could have chosen pure math for this but I'm tired of theory that is hard to see the practical use of.

So what is C, with my definitions of E & B?

And how do I calculate it (the manitude and resulting direction is easy but I whish to see it in math)?

Does anyone want to help me refresh this knowledge?

Roger
 
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rogerk8 said:
which due to

[tex]\vec{E}X\vec{B}=\vec{B}X(\vec{v}X\vec{B})=vB^2-B(\vec{v}\cdot \vec{B})[/tex]
I don't understand where that equation comes from.
My question now is how to calculate

[tex]\vec{C}=\vec{E}X\vec{B}[/tex]
With the standard way to express the cross-product via components. You can find the formula in literally every textbook, in all the wikipedia articles and in thousands of other websites related to the cross-product..
 
mfb said:
I don't understand where that equation comes from.
With the standard way to express the cross-product via components. You can find the formula in literally every textbook, in all the wikipedia articles and in thousands of other websites related to the cross-product..

Simple, the equation comes from

[tex]\vec{E}X\vec{B}=-\vec{B}X\vec{E}[/tex]

Please don't answer (or whatever you think you are trying to do) any more of my posts.

I don't like you.

/Roger
 
rogerk8 said:
Please don't answer (or whatever you think you are trying to do) any more of my posts.

I don't like you.

You don't like being reminded of reality by a professional working physicist? Hmm
 
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