What is the correct angle between T and U in the cross product?

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The discussion centers on finding the angle between two vectors T and U using the cross product. The vectors are given as T = (3,1,0) and U = (2,4,0), resulting in a cross product V = TxU = (0,0,10) with a magnitude of 10. The calculations initially led to an angle of 45 degrees, which some participants questioned as incorrect. However, it is clarified that the sine of the angle is indeed 1/√2, corresponding to the angle of 45 degrees, confirming that the calculations are consistent. The final consensus is that the angle between the vectors is correctly determined to be 45 degrees.
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1. Find the sine of the angle between and .

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2. AxB = ABsin(alpha)



3. I know T = (3,1,0) and U = (2,4,0), and I calculated that V = TxU = (0,0,10), so the magnitude of V is 10.

Then I did 10 = sqrt(10)*sqrt(20)*sin(alpha)

Divided 10 by sqrt(10)*sqrt(20), took the inverse sine, and obtained 45 degrees, which is incorrect.
 
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I haven't studied 3-D vectors, but this problem can be simplified into a 2-D diagram, and quite easily since z=0 for both vectors.
I also got the answer of 45o by answering it with trigonometry.

But the question does say find the sine of the angle, correct? So are we looking for the answer 1/\sqrt{2} ?
 
We are not finding sine(theta), we are finding theta, which is what I calculated.
 
You have already been told that 45 degrees (\pi/4 radians) is the correct answer. What makes you say it is incorrect?

As a check, use the fact that \vec{u}\cdot\vec{v}= |\vec{u}||\vec{v}|cos(\theta). Since, here, |\vec{u}\times\vec{v}|= \vec{u}\cdot\vec{v}, sin(\theta)= cos(\theta) and the angle, being in the first quadrant must be \pi/4.
 
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