Curious does anyone play the piano

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The discussion revolves around participants' experiences and questions related to playing the piano, including challenges with specific pieces, music theory, and the potential for a music section on the forum. The scope includes personal anecdotes, technical questions, and suggestions for resources.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express curiosity about piano playing and share their current skill levels and challenges with specific pieces.
  • There is a suggestion for a dedicated music section on the forum, with some arguing that the lack of questions on music theory may not warrant it.
  • Participants discuss the differences between playing various styles of music, such as classical, ragtime, and jazz.
  • Questions arise about how to approach playing and singing simultaneously, particularly regarding which parts of the music to focus on.
  • Some participants clarify that vocal parts in sheet music are not meant to be played on the piano, while others suggest looking for solo piano versions of songs.
  • One participant shares their experience with learning to play music by ear and the differences between classical and contemporary styles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the necessity of a music section in the forum, and there are differing opinions on how to approach playing and singing simultaneously. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best methods for learning and playing specific pieces.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about music notation and the appropriate versions of sheet music to use, indicating a need for further clarification on these topics.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in piano playing, music theory, or those seeking advice on learning to play specific songs may find this discussion beneficial.

elabed haidar
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hey I am just curious does anyone play the pina i really have a few questions ??thank you
 
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Sorry, piano is not my forte.
 


elabed haidar said:
hey I am just curious does anyone play the pina i really have a few questions ??thank you

Currently in my second year of training. I can decently play a few classical pieces. I love ragtime as well (especially maple leaf rag and black and white rag) but at the moment it's a bit too tough for me. :smile:
 


Jimmy Snyder said:
Sorry, piano is not my forte.

Clever.
 


BTW, that got me thinking; Why don't we have a music section in PF, considering that we have a subforum for every other subject on the planet (well almost).
 


mishrashubham said:
BTW, that got me thinking; Why don't we have a music section in PF, considering that we have a subforum for every other subject on the planet (well almost).

Because we don't get large numbers of questions related to the physics of music, nor any questions at all about music theory.
 


If we had a music theory forum, I think I'd be hanging out there all day long :p
 


chaoseverlasting said:
If we had a music theory forum, I think I'd be hanging out there all day long :p

Ahhhhhh, ditto.

To elabed haidar, there are plenty of pianists here, myself included. Ask your questions and maybe we can help you.
 


I play, got to grade 7 (of 8) before university got in the way.
 
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I played for four years in middle school/junior high.

I'm terrible.
 
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thank you all it means a lot so i dream of palying the elton john songs and i have in fron t of me but its like it needs three hands hopw do i play it ??
 
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also james blunt and still same problem
 
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Reminds me of this video:
 
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It's not three hands, the bottom two lines are piano and the top is vocal. You don't play the top one.
 
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh okay now i get it thanks jared james so what do i do with vocal its just written for what??
 
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You don't do anything, unless you plan singing as well.

Vocal = voice part. Sometimes they put the words under it as well.

EDIT: You could also get another instrument to play it.
 
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so if i want to sing and play should i play the three parts?? that's hard
but if i just want to play the piano i play the second and third line
what aout you james what do you like to play on the piano?
 
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elabed haidar said:
so if i want to sing and play should i play the three parts?? that's hard

No, you sing only the top staff.

elabed haidar said:
but if i just want to play the piano i play the second and third line

Yes that's right.
 
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wowwwwwwww so what about what would you like to play on the piano?
 
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elabed haidar said:
wowwwwwwww so what about what would you like to play on the piano?

Well I would surely like to play almost everything, but unfortunately I can't. I am practicing different styles, such as classical, ragtime and jazz but it will take quite some time before I can manage to play something.
 
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is the difference huge between these styles??
but are you sure about singing and playing so when elton john sings and plays he just plays the first line I am a bit confused can you please elaborate and thank you a lot mishrashubham
 
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elabed haidar said:
is the difference huge between these styles??
but are you sure about singing and playing so when elton john sings and plays he just plays the first line I am a bit confused can you please elaborate and thank you a lot mishrashubham

Take this for an example. This is from my ragtime finger exercise book.

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While we're talking about piano theory, maybe you pianists can answer a question.

What style of piano would you call the upbeat sections of this song by Tim Minchin:



It's a 10 minute video, with a 3 or so minute piano solo in the middle. It's a comedy song, where he alternates slow and fast parts. I find the fast parts incredibly catchy, and I'd be interested in hearing more "serious" piano songs in a similar style.
 
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elabed haidar said:
is the difference huge between these styles??
but are you sure about singing and playing so when elton john sings and plays he just plays the first line I am a bit confused can you please elaborate and thank you a lot mishrashubham

I assure you, Elton John isn't playing the first part (although you can't rule out artistic 'live' flourishes).

I have played a number of his pieces and he plays the lower two lines.

The top part is the melody - the bit sung.

It's no good you arguing this, it's standard music notation. Just accept it.

If you don't intend having someone singing or another instrument for the melody, you don't need the three staff version. Because you're only playing the lower lines, you may not here the melody.

All of those songs come in what is called a 'piano version'. Where there are only two staffs and the melody is within them.
 
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so ill start practicing the two lower parts and hopefully i will get it
 
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jck you right it is nice especially the fast part
 
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elabed haidar said:
so ill start practicing the two lower parts and hopefully i will get it

I'd still recommend you get the piano only version.
 
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how do you know where ( free ofcourse) lol
 
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so i can't play on the piano the vocal version?? that sucks it took me a week to get those
 
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Not free, they aren't free works. You could possibly get people's own versions.

I use www.sheetmusicdirect.com which has a whole variety from easy piano, solo piano and the full piece with all parts.

You have to pay and need to install Sibelius Scorch (free) to view and listen to the music pieces before buying.
 

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