Current Electricity Homework: Rnet~l2/A & Variables

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The discussion revolves around understanding the relationship between resistance, current, and electric fields in a circuit. The equations R=pl/A and Rnet~l2/A are used to analyze the behavior of electric fields and drift velocity, with a consensus that while total current remains constant, current density varies with area. There is confusion regarding the three-dimensional representation of objects in the problem, particularly the configuration of electrodes and their shapes. The integration of differential forms and the dependency of electric field on distance are also debated, leading to uncertainty about the overall clarity of the problem. The thread concludes with a recognition of the need for further clarification on the geometrical aspects of the problem.
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Homework Statement



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Note: ~ stands for proportionality sign and p stands for resistivity.

The Attempt at a Solution



R=pl/A
Rnet~l2/A
V is constant across each conductor, so magnitude of electric field must be constant for every case. Since drift velocity depends on electric field, it is also constant for all. Wrong

Total current I in the circuit is constant in every case. But current density is constant only in A as area perpendicular to the current flow is constant. Correct.

Resistance per unit volume and Power dissipated per unit volume both are variables for all as both are functions of distance. Correct.

The only problem is with drift velocity and electric field.
 

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Abdul Quadeer said:

Homework Statement



Refer figure

https://www.physicsforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32966&stc=1&d=1299855441"


Note: ~ stands for proportionality sign and p stands for resistivity.

The Attempt at a Solution



R=pl/A
Rnet~l2/A
V is constant across each conductor, so magnitude of electric field must be constant for every case. Since drift velocity depends on electric field, it is also constant for all. Wrong

Total current I in the circuit is constant in every case. But current density is constant only in A as area perpendicular to the current flow is constant. Correct.

Resistance per unit volume and Power dissipated per unit volume both are variables for all as both are functions of distance. Correct.

The only problem is with drift velocity and electric field.

It's not too clear to me what the objects in C and D look like in three dimensions. Also, the configuration of the electrodes in C is not clear.

Use the differential form of your equation:

dR=\frac{\rho}{A}\,d\ell\,,

then integrate.

Also, I=\int_S\vec{J}\cdot\vec{dA}\,,

dV=-\vec{E}\cdot\vec{d\ell}

and \vec{E}=\rho\vec{J}\,,
 
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I still don't get the answer.
Using your expressions, I got that E depends on x or r in every case i.e. it is not constant.
option (p) is included for (B) and (C) and option (s) for (A) only.
 
It's still not clear to me: what objects are in C & D !

Spheres with spherical cavities? (Then how are they different? Is part of the electrode buried in C?)

Looking at the end of cylinders?

Ellipsoid with spherical cavity, or sphere with elliptical cavity.

Why is part of the wire going to the inside of C straight?
 
This question now seems unclear to me too. Let's close this topic.
 
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