Current induced in a coil from inside

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The discussion revolves around the induction of current in a coil of wire when a stream of protons passes through its interior. Participants explore the relationship between the induced current in individual loops of the coil and the total current in the entire coil, considering concepts of magnetic flux and voltage.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the current induced in one loop of the coil can be multiplied by the number of loops to determine the total current induced in the coil.
  • Another participant asserts that the inner current creates a change in magnetic flux in the loops.
  • A participant suggests that the current in the coil is equal to the current in a single loop, indicating that the voltage across the loops will add instead.
  • It is proposed that if the coil is shorted or made superconducting, the total current may actually decrease with more loops, as the current would only need to counteract the change in magnetic field from the protons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between the induced current in individual loops and the total current in the coil, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on how to calculate the total current induced in the coil, and there are assumptions regarding the behavior of the coil under different conditions (e.g., shorted or superconducting).

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Hi there,

If you have a stream of protons passing through the inside of a coil of wire (coils of wire at 45 degrees to current of protons) and say the current of protons induced a certain current in one of the loops, would the current induced in one loop be equal to the current in the entire coil? Or would you times the current induced in one loop by the number of coils to get the total current induced in the coil?
 
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So does your current create a change in magnetic flux .
 
Yes, the inner current creates a change in magnetic flux in the loops. I have already calculated that. I found the current that should be created in one loop, I was just wondering if you could multiply that by the number of loops to get the total current induced in the coil, or whether the total current induced in the coil is just equal to the current induced in one loop.
 
Northprairieman said:
Yes, the inner current creates a change in magnetic flux in the loops. I have already calculated that. I found the current that should be created in one loop, I was just wondering if you could multiply that by the number of loops to get the total current induced in the coil, or whether the total current induced in the coil is just equal to the current induced in one loop.

The current in the coil is equal to the current in a single loop. It's the voltage across the loops that will add.

If you short out the coil or use a superconducting coil, then LESS current will go through the coil if there are more loops, because the amount of current will be just big enough to counteract the change in magnetic field from the protons, and you don't need less current to produce the same magnetic field.
 
Thanks
 

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