# Curve Sketching for f(x)=6x^2/(x^2-2x-15)

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## Homework Statement

Please state the following components of this rational function?
f(x)=6x^2/(x^2-2x-15)

-intervals of increase/decrease
-local maximum and minimum values
-intervals of concave up/concave down
-points of inflection

N/A

## The Attempt at a Solution

There is a horizontal asymptote at y=6.
There are vertical asymptotes at x=-3 and x=5
The first derivative is -12x(x+15)/(x^2-2x-15)^2
The second derivative is 12(2x^3+45x^2+225)/(x^2-2x-15)^3
According to the first derivative, the critical numbers would be -15, and 0.
After the first derivative test, I found out that a min. point occurs when x=-15 and a max. point occurs when x=0. However, I got (-15,5.625) and (0,0). How can the min. point have a larger y-value than the max. point?
Also, when I graphed this function on GraphCalc, it seems that there does not seem to be a minimum point at x=-15. Why is that?
When I graphed the function, there seems to be 3 branches; in the left, middle, and right. The left branch seems to go through the horizontal asymptote (y=6) but then it slowly approaches it from below y=6.
Please graph f(x)=6x^2/(x^2-2x-15) at http://math.ucalgary.ca/undergraduate/webwork/graphing-calculator [Broken] to see what I am describing. I cannot justify why there would be a minimum at x=-15.

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What did you get for the derivative? The link you posted doesn't seem to have anything to do with this problem.

A local minimum point can have a larger y value than a local maximum point. Such points have smaller y values than all other points in some interval.

What did you get for the derivative? The link you posted doesn't seem to have anything to do with this problem.

A local minimum point can have a larger y value than a local maximum point. Such points have smaller y values than all other points in some interval.

Please take a look the edited information that I typed above in my first post.
I would appreciate it if you can help me out.

## Homework Statement

Please state the following components of this rational function?
f(x)=6x^2/(x^2-2x-15)

-intervals of increase/decrease
-local maximum and minimum values
-intervals of concave up/concave down
-points of inflection

N/A

## The Attempt at a Solution

There is a horizontal asymptote at y=6.
There are vertical asymptotes at x=-3 and x=5
The first derivative is -12x(x+15)/(x^2-2x-15)^2
Everything is fine to here. I didn't check the 2nd derivative, though.
The second derivative is 12(2x^3+45x^2+225)/(x^2-2x-15)^3
According to the first derivative, the critical numbers would be -15, and 0.
After the first derivative test, I found out that a min. point occurs when x=-15 and a max. point occurs when x=0. However, I got (-15,5.625) and (0,0). How can the min. point have a larger y-value than the max. point?
These are the correct critical numbers. As noted in my other post, a local minimum point can have a larger y value than another local maximum point.
Also, when I graphed this function on GraphCalc, it seems that there does not seem to be a minimum point at x=-15. Why is that?
Change your scale and it will show up better. Going to the left from the y axis, the graph drops down to its local min point, and then gradually moves up the the hor. asymptote.
When I graphed the function, there seems to be 3 branches; in the left, middle, and right. The left branch seems to go through the horizontal asymptote (y=6) but then it slowly approaches it from below y=6.
Please graph f(x)=6x^2/(x^2-2x-15) at http://math.ucalgary.ca/undergraduate/webwork/graphing-calculator [Broken] to see what I am describing. I cannot justify why there would be a minimum at x=-15.

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Everything is fine to here. I didn't check the 2nd derivative, though.
These are the correct critical numbers. As noted in my other post, a local minimum point can have a larger y value than another local maximum point.
Change your scale and it will show up better. Going to the left from the y axis, the graph drops down to its local min point, and then gradually moves up the the hor. asymptote.

Will I need to use the values of -15, -3, 0, and 5 for the chart to find intervals of increase and decrease?

Also, how do I find the intervals of concave up and concave down and the points of inflection?
The second derivative is 12(2x^3+45x^2+225)/(x^2-2x-15)^3. For what values of x do I test for in the 2nd derivative chart? Are -3 and 5 two numbers that I must include in this chart, since either one of them makes the second derivative undefined? Please help.

Will I need to use the values of -15, -3, 0, and 5 for the chart to find intervals of increase and decrease?
Yes.
Also, how do I find the intervals of concave up and concave down and the points of inflection?
Concave up - where y'' > 0. Concave down - where y'' < 0.
The second derivative is 12(2x^3+45x^2+225)/(x^2-2x-15)^3. For what values of x do I test for in the 2nd derivative chart? Are -3 and 5 two numbers that I must include in this chart, since either one of them makes the second derivative undefined? Please help.
Your intervals of concave up/concave down can't include x = -3 or x = 5, since the function is not defined there.