Curvilinear Motion: Polar Coordinates (Engineering Dynamics)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around curvilinear motion in the context of polar coordinates, focusing on the equations for the radial and angular components of acceleration. Participants are exploring how to manipulate these equations to solve a specific homework problem related to dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in starting the problem and seeks a hint to derive r in terms of t.
  • Another participant asks for the equations for the r and θ components of acceleration in polar coordinates.
  • A participant provides the equation for acceleration in polar coordinates and notes the known acceleration value of 15 m/s², indicating confusion about how to manipulate the given equations.
  • A further inquiry is made regarding the relationship between dr/dt and the angular components, specifically asking for dr/dt in terms of θ and its derivatives.
  • There is also a request for the second derivative of r with respect to time in terms of θ and its derivatives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants are generally exploring the same topic but have not reached a consensus on how to approach the problem or manipulate the equations effectively. Multiple viewpoints on the method of solving the problem remain.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the dependencies on the definitions of the variables or the specific forms of the equations needed for the solution. There are indications of missing assumptions regarding the relationships between r and θ.

Who May Find This Useful

Students or individuals interested in engineering dynamics, particularly those studying polar coordinates and curvilinear motion.

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I have stared at this for hours and don't know where to start. I think I need to get r in terms of t but I don't really know how with the information given. I just need a good hint to get started.
 
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In polar coordinates, what are the equations for the r and θ components of acceleration?
 
Chestermiller said:
In polar coordinates, what are the equations for the r and θ components of acceleration?

a = (Rdouble dot - Rθdot2)eR + (Rθdouble dot + 2Rdotθdot)eθ

I know a = 15 m/s2. I also know that the dot means the derivative is taken in respect to time. That's where I'm drawing a blank and why I thought the given R equation had to be manipulated in some way to be in terms of t. Or possibly solve for θ in terms of t and then substitute that equation into θ in the original given R equation.

In all the examples we did in class θ was given in terms of t, so it was pretty simple to substitute that equation into the given r equation and then take the derivatives.
 
From Eqn. 3.1, in terms of dθ/dt and θ, what is dr/dt?
What is ##\frac{d^2r}{dt^2}## in terms of θ, dθ/dt, and d2θ/dt2.
 

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