Cylinder Floating: Frequency of Oscillation Explained

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The discussion revolves around oscillations of a floating cylinder and a system of blocks connected by springs. The original poster seeks clarification on the frequency of oscillation for a submerged cylinder and the relationships between various parameters, as well as assistance with a separate problem involving normal modes and spring constants in a mass-spring system.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the derivation of the volume of water displaced by the cylinder and questions the use of specific formulas related to the diameter. They also seek clarification on the relationship between the mass of the cylinder and the submerged length.
  • Another participant points out the need to express the area of a circle in terms of its diameter, which may help clarify the original poster's confusion.
  • Subsequent posts introduce a different problem involving three blocks and springs, with the original poster expressing a need for guidance on the steps to solve it, while another participant suggests separating this question into a new thread.

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Hi everyone,
I have an exercise and i don't understand something in the solution:
A cylinder of diameter d floats with l of its length submerged. The total height is L. Assume no
damping. At time t = 0 the cylinder is pushed down a distance B and released.
What is the frequency of oscillation?

The diameter of the floating cylinder is d and it has l of its length submerged in water. The volume of water
displaced by the submerged part of the cylinder in equilibrium condition is πd2l/4. Let the density of water be ρ
and the density of cylinder be ρcyl. Hence the mass of the cylinder is:
Mcyl = ρw*Vdisplaced= ρw*πd2l/4=ρcyl*πd2L/4
Frestoringw*gπd2x/4
Mcylx"=ρw*gπd2x/4
w²=ρw*gπd2/4Mcyl
w²=g/l

Why are they taking Vdisplaced=πd2l/4 Why /4 ?
And why l is equa to 4Mcylw*πd2

Thanks !
 
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Unicorn. said:
Why are they taking Vdisplaced=πd2l/4 Why /4 ?
What's the formula for the area of a circle expressed in terms of its diameter (not radius)?
And why l is equa to 4Mcylw*πd2
This relationship comes from the first equation you wrote.
 
Oh okey i didn't notice that it was written in terms of the diameter !
Thanks !

I have another question about oscillations, it was an assignment that we did two weeks ago. I didn't understand the exercise so I didn't do it and my teacher doesn't give the details of the solutions. I'm expecting someone to help me and explain me the steps:

Three block of mass m=0.13kg are connected with three springs of constant k1 k2 k3 and

Two of the normal modes of the system, expressed in terms of displacement are :
|1>=( 1 0 -3) |2>= ( 27 -10 9)

Knowing that the lower frequency that isn't necessarly the first mode frequency is 20 rad/s. Find the spring constants.

All i did is that i gave the equations of motion so i got few points for that, and found the |3> as they're perpendicular between them.

Thank you, I have an exam tomorrow and need to understand this !
 
Unicorn. said:
I have another question about oscillations, it was an assignment that we did two weeks ago. I didn't understand the exercise so I didn't do it and my teacher doesn't give the details of the solutions. I'm expecting someone to help me and explain me the steps:

Three block of mass m=0.13kg are connected with three springs of constant k1 k2 k3 and

Two of the normal modes of the system, expressed in terms of displacement are :
|1>=( 1 0 -3) |2>= ( 27 -10 9)

Knowing that the lower frequency that isn't necessarly the first mode frequency is 20 rad/s. Find the spring constants.

I think you should post this as a separate question with an appropriate title.
 

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